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User contributions showing Q##
User contributions lists are showing page titles as "Q" followed by some numbers, as opposed to showing the page's associated name in the appropriate language like is shown in the recent changes. See for example Special:Contributions/Reedy. (This page could use some kind of header, by the way.) (Another unrelated point: The Main Page is protected, and it probably doesn't need to be, and least not yet.) --Yair rand
- Some other issues: In the recent changes, names seem to be showing up in English even if the name of the item in the (non-English) set language is available. Example: When my language is set to Hebrew, the RC shows "Netherlands (Q55)". (Something also needs to be done about that brackets/direction issue, by the way...) Unified log-in doesn't appear to be running yet, also. --Yair rand
- Hi Yair! Thanks for the reports. I am using German via ULS, and there I get the German label if available in the recent changes. Note that Q55 did not have a label in Hebrew giving the name of the item, only the sitelink. The sitelink is not used as a label! Try it again now, I added a label. --Denny Vrandečić (WMDE) (talk) 20:50, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, sorry, I thought they were the same thing. So, the label is used on Wikidata only, and the sitelink is the item's corresponding Wikipedia article? --Yair rand 20:54, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- Yes. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 21:06, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- I see. Thanks for clarifying. --Yair rand 21:07, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- Two things to mention. First, I was editing using the English interface and I wanted to add an Arabic label. I didn't know how, I thought about maybe aliases but they didn't show any language options. It was not clear to me that the way to add info in another language is to change the website's (wikidata) interface language. I think the website's language should be independent of what which language I am entering info. Second, when adding a language link, maybe a sensible default for the item's label in that language is the corresponding wikipedia article from that language? --Ahmed Sobhi 22:54, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- I see. Thanks for clarifying. --Yair rand 21:07, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- Yes. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 21:06, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, sorry, I thought they were the same thing. So, the label is used on Wikidata only, and the sitelink is the item's corresponding Wikipedia article? --Yair rand 20:54, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Yair! Thanks for the reports. I am using German via ULS, and there I get the German label if available in the recent changes. Note that Q55 did not have a label in Hebrew giving the name of the item, only the sitelink. The sitelink is not used as a label! Try it again now, I added a label. --Denny Vrandečić (WMDE) (talk) 20:50, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- Another bug: I'm getting frequently forwarded to meta:Missing wiki when clicking links. --Yair rand 21:07, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
- Ditto - including, amusingly enough, the link that told me to come to wikidata.org in the first case ;p. Ironholds (talk) 10:43, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Yes. Thanks. We're looking into it. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 13:44, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Ditto - including, amusingly enough, the link that told me to come to wikidata.org in the first case ;p. Ironholds (talk) 10:43, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
"Add" bug
Clicking "add" on, for example, Q225, leads to the popup appearing transparent, mashing the interface elements in the popup and the underlying page. Firefox 16.0.2, Windows 7. Ironholds (talk) 10:45, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- I got the same thing, FF 16, OSX 10.5. Wittylama (talk) 10:53, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
On which "add" did you click? Does this happen on any other "add" than the one next to the "Also known as" field? There I can confirm it. --Denny (talk) 11:03, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Right, I think Wittylama is talking about the aliases section. It messes up after I click Add button (Chrome 22, Windows 7). Wizardist (talk) 11:19, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- yes, it's in the "Also known as:" section (which when clicked says "enter an alias"). No, it doesn't happen when I click "add" to add a new language for any given record. Are there any other "add" fields in other places? Wittylama (talk) 11:33, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
I've just identified a new, replicable, version of this bug. Go to a record that DOES already have an alias. I tested this on "earth" Q2 which has two aliases already - Gaia and Terra. Click "Edit" which opens up the dialogue box to add a third alias. Then, before you write anything, go to a different tab, window or program currently running on your computer. Then, immediately return to the Wikidata record page. it will now be displaying the same transparent popup for the input method.
On a related note - I believe that's the first time I've ever listed a replicable bug, all on my own :-) Wittylama (talk) 11:40, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Universal Language Selector is the cause of this bug. (Can you see the black tiny keyboard over every input you type?) Wizardist (talk) 14:02, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Initial Language
When I came to the main page for the first time the interface was in English, but by the next page I navigated to it had swapped to Icelandic - no particular reason I can think of as I'm not anywhere near Iceland's IP range and that's certainly not any of my browser settings. It was very difficult to swap it back, had to close the tab and start again because the language selector button was inoperable. More amusing than anything, but good work integrating language controls so tightly into the interface! :-) Wittylama (talk) 10:56, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- I confirm that issue. It was some Norwegian language and Icelandic, which both confused me. We are investigating. --Denny (talk) 11:36, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
I have main page default in Italian. Then I change to czech, but after few links i got icelandic, including this page. When i pressed [edit], I have again czech. 90.176.233.122 13:08, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- I find this a fascinatingly amusing bug for some reason. I'm really keen to know why Wikidata has such a predilection for Icelandic!! Is it a cunning plot by one of the coders to promote their favourite? it the fact that Icelandic is actually the universal language and the software's trying to tell us? we might never know... Wittylama (talk) 13:32, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Why adding these interwiki's manually
Nice to play with wikidata, but why would we add all those interwiki pages manually, I assume it is not to hard to import the current interwiki's using a bot? Only a label, alias and description should be added manually afterwards as additional info. Michiel1972 (talk) 12:31, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, there will be bots on wikidata, but there are not any now. See this, for example. PiRSquared17 (talk) 13:25, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Duplicate entry management
Duplicate entry error message should give, imho, an easy way to solve it, a first step would be adding a working link to the duplicated resource. --Vituzzu (talk) 13:25, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Yes merging of entries still needs to be implemented. See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38664 --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 13:49, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
404 Not Found error
Occasionally, while browsing the wiki, I get "404" errors. Sometimes it forwards me to m:Missing wiki. This seems to happen even more on Special pages (but I may be wrong about that). What causes this error? PiRSquared17 (talk) 13:57, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Its probably the squid cache on the server side. Its quite normal for a new site (even so a new domain). --Hydriz (talk) 13:58, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Happens to me, too, but usualy works fine when I click the link the second time. Yerpo (talk) 14:34, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- This is hopefully fixed now. If you're still seeing it please let me know. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 17:07, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
I tried to wiew WIkidata from mobile. I don't found possibiliy for editing, but when I click to Mobile wiev i got 404 error. JAn Dudík (talk) 06:26, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
Accent alias
Hello again! When I try to add accented letters (example: é) in the "alias" box, I get the accent followed by the accented letter (example: ´é) instead. Does anyone else have this problem? PiRSquared17 (talk) 15:53, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- That doesn't sound good -.- Can you file a bug for this on bugs.wikimedia.org please? --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 15:55, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- I think it's called bugzilla:41557. PiRSquared17 (talk) 16:12, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Search
http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?search=lisbonne&title=Special%3ASearch delivers three results, pointing all to the same object. -- 109.48.72.41 16:36, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks! The search is indeed still suboptimal unfortunately. We're working on it. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 16:37, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
http://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&search=lisboa&fulltext=Search .... no results, even if there is already an entry for Portuguese in the object Q572 ... only "label" and "description" missing -- 109.48.72.41 16:43, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
How to prevent double entries?
If I call http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Lissabon, the system asks me, if I want to create a new object. However object Q572 is alraedy existing, also with a label and description in German. -- 109.48.72.41 16:48, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Special:ItemDisambiguation is the most helpful one for that right now. Still not optimal. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 16:52, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Answer not helpful. Not talking of disambiguation, but of double entries for the same object (here the city of Lisbon).
- System gives no information on an already existing object, system gives no warning, when creating a double entry for an already existing object. See Q572 - Q597 -- 109.48.72.41 17:01, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Yes but that page at least tells you if there is already an item that is linked to a specific Wikipedia page. As I said it's not optimal but better than nothing for now. We'll have to work on something better still. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 17:02, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Oh wait. Sorry. Fail. I meant Special:ItemByTitle. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 17:04, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Yes but that page at least tells you if there is already an item that is linked to a specific Wikipedia page. As I said it's not optimal but better than nothing for now. We'll have to work on something better still. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 17:02, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
wiki syntax in descriptions
Is it planned to allow the use of wiki syntax in descriptions (e.g. to link to articles about "topic-specific" terms in Wikipedia)? --MF-Warburg (talk) 16:55, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Can you file a feature request for that on bugs.wikimedia.org please? Thanks :) --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 16:58, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
How the system gets feedback on deleted pages
See Q620: dataset still points on deleted testpage. -- 109.48.72.41 17:30, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- It does not currently. Especially because the Wikipedias are not aware of Wikidata yet. (They don't yet have the necessary extension installed.) But even when it is we'll have to see how/if to do that. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 17:33, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. And how to mark that entry for deletion? -- 109.48.72.41 17:36, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- There is Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions for that for now. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 17:38, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. And how to mark that entry for deletion? -- 109.48.72.41 17:36, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Translate extension
Are there any plans to use the mw:Extension:Translate, e.g. for easier translation of the Main Page? --MF-Warburg (talk) 18:04, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- It'd be up to the community to make such a request. It'd be awesome if we could wait with it for a while however to first get everything in shape that we have before adding more to the mix of potential sources of failure. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 18:11, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Tables
Tables are too short (zh-classical and zh-minh-nan). Saint Johann (talk) 20:43, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Uff indeed. Thanks for bringing it up. Can you file this as a bug on bugs.wikimedia.org please? Thank you! --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 20:50, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Um was handelt es sich überhaupt?
Ist man per Zufällige Seite oder sonstwie auf eine Seite gekommen, die in der eingestellten Sprache keinen Eintrag hat, sieht man keinen einzigen Hinweis um was es sich handelt. Man muss dann also erst auf eine andere Sprache umschalten (und findet hoffentlich recht schnell eine, in der ein Eintrag vorhanden ist) um zu wissen um was es sich handelt. Beispiel: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q653?setlang=de. Um zu erkennen, dass es sich um Chihuahuas handelt muss man erst die Sprache auf Englisch wechseln. Nicht unbedingt ideal oder? --Pilettes (talk) 21:45, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Ja. Wir arbeiten dran :) --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 21:46, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Search gives many dublicate items
When I search (e.g. [1]) i get many many results. But all are the same. Is it a feature or a bug?--Svebert (talk) 21:55, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- It's a bug ;-) We're working on it. Search in general is still meh. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 21:58, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Also, completion doesn't work on the search bar. Ijon (talk) 00:09, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
Arabic language is right-adjusted instead of left-adjusted in tables
See here Q64 , third entry--Svebert (talk) 21:58, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Hmm for all I can tell that is how it is supposed to be. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 22:05, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Someone deleted all entries in Q64, here is the version-link with the issue (i am using firefox) [2]--Svebert (talk) 22:23, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- Bah! Thanks for notifying. Someone did a rollback now. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 22:27, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
- [conflict] It should be without JavaScript, but it is not — Ltrl G☎, le 22:29, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Special pages
You could save some server load by disabling/hiding some special pages. For example I can't see how Special:LongPages is going to be useful to us.
- Noted :) --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 06:27, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
Also it would be great if Special:WithoutInterwiki could be repurposed to list "empty" items with no interlanguage links in them? This, that and the other (talk) 00:35, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- We'll have another special page for that. See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39150 --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 06:27, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- And another one: Special:ItemDisambiguation seems to be case-sensitive which is rather frustrating. This, that and the other (talk) 00:38, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- I'll bring it up. Thanks. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 06:27, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
Code field too small
On http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1299 the area for the language code is too small because of the long code zh-min-nan - Romaine (talk) 01:07, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Also with
zh-classicalon http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q23 - Romaine (talk) 01:10, 31 October 2012 (UTC)- Yes. See also Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team#Arabic_language_is_right-adjusted_instead_of_left-adjusted_in_tables. Can you file a bug for that please on bugs.wikimedia.org? Thanks! --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 06:37, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
el and da language codes not being entered
While trying to enter articles linked for the language codes el and da, neither of them are present in the available list, and so, cannot be entered. Hazard-SJ ✈ 04:02, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Hmm that works here. Were the articles in these languages maybe already linked to? Iirc then it does not show them in the selection box. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 06:42, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
Commons-Links
System does not accept interwiki links to Commons, like for categories -- 109.48.72.41 05:37, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's not yet possible, but it's coming. --Stryn (talk) 05:39, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
User contributions
In the list of user contributions (like Special:Contributions/Romaine) we only see the number of the recordset.
Request: add the label info asin Special:RecentChanges -- 109.48.72.41 05:41, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- That sounds like a good idea :) Can you file a feature request on bugs.wikimedia.org please? Thanks! --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 06:40, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Strange, this should be fixed but the same bug exist in my local server. Jeblad (talk) 11:02, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
Special:ItemDisambiguation
If I search hello world you can create the item there is following text You can world you can create the item create the item. So page needs some fix. --Stryn (talk) 06:58, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- The system message "wikibase-itemdisambiguation-nothing-found" needs url-encoding added to it. This should be done in the backend ideally, not through our MediaWiki namespace if possible. This, that and the other (talk) 08:58, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks! I've filed a bug for it here: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41576 --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 10:40, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
High risk of duplicate entries
If I see Wikidata:Requests for deletions today and yesterday, we have a very high risk of double entries. -- 109.48.72.41 14:13, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Yes this is not great. We'll have to work on that. See also https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36423 and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39763 --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 14:35, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
WikiEditor Toolbar doesn't work - "Also known as:" error
1) My WikiEditor Toolbar doesn't work, so if I click a whatever button, it adds nothing in the edit box.
2) When I try to edit the "Also known as:" field, the link to add an alias are covered by the link "add" (who does not hide when I go to make the change). This prevents to all volunteers to add aliases to any person in any language.). Screeshot Raoli (16.09)
- 1) Can you give me a link to a page where it happens?
- 2) Yes. Being worked on at the moment. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 15:15, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- 1)All, also here in this moment for example. Infact i don't add signature. Raoli (16.17)
- 3)The Defaultsort function and interwiki to other wikimedia project are in the aims of Wikidata? Thank you Raoli (16.24)
- Yes but it's not a priority at the moment. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 16:00, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- 1) Now start to work the WikiEditor Toolbar. Thank you --Raoli (talk) 15:56, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- 2) And now the other error was resolved. Thank you very much
Raoli (talk) 16:00, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Ok great. Do you know what the problem was? --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 16:00, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- I don't know, I thought that you had solved these problems. I just purged the page several times and after that (approximately thirty minutes) they have been resolved. Raoli (talk) 17:24, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Ok great. Do you know what the problem was? --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 16:00, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
Sitelinks not protocol-relative
Hello yet again! I recently noticed (when I used a browser without HTTPSEverywhere) that the sitelinks added to pages always go to HTTP. They should be made protocol-relative. Example: currently displays link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe Should be: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe, which makes the browser go to HTTPS if it's on HTTPS, or HTTP if you're on HTTP. PiRSquared17 (talk) 15:39, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- I have reported it here for you: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41592 --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 16:49, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
Empty labels
Is it possible (or planned) to somehow find all pages which have no label (in a given language / at all)? --MF-Warburg (talk) 17:17, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- I've reported a feature request for it here: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41597 We definitely need that. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 17:27, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
Page title
I think changing the page’s label should change the page’s title (in local script) — Ltrl G☎, le 17:59, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Can you please file a bug for that on bugs.wikimedia.org? Thanks! --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 18:02, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Done: bugzilla:41598. I hope I did no error, it’s the first time I report a bug. — Ltrl G☎, le 18:17, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- It's perfect, don't worry ;-) Thanks a lot. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 18:18, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Done: bugzilla:41598. I hope I did no error, it’s the first time I report a bug. — Ltrl G☎, le 18:17, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
Fußtext (DE) korrigieren
Streiche: Strukturierte Daten in dem Haupt- und Eigenschaftennamensraum ist unter der Creative Commons CC0 Lizens verfügbar; Text in den anderen Namensräumen ist unter der Lizenz „Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike“ verfügbar; zusätzliche Bedingungen können gelten. Einzelheiten sind in den Nutzungsbedingungen beschrieben.
Setze: Strukturierte Daten in dem Haupt- und Eigenschaftennamensraum sind unter der Creative-Commons-CC0-Lizenz verfügbar; Text in den anderen Namensräumen sind unter der Lizenz „Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike“ verfügbar; zusätzliche Bedingungen können gelten. Einzelheiten sind in den Nutzungsbedingungen beschrieben.
(Verlinkungen unberücksichtigt) --Matthiasb (talk) 18:03, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Kannst du mir kurz sagen welche Seite ich ändern muss? Dann kann ich das machen. --Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 18:15, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Ich war mal so frei: [3]. --MF-Warburg (talk) 18:20, 31 October 2012 (UTC)