Wikidata:Property proposal/Hymnary.org page

Hymnary.org page edit

NOTE: I revoke this proposal, since the community has since approved and created overlapping properties Hymnary author ID (P6300) and Hymnary text ID (P6348). I will propose new properties for the remaining data types held at Hymnary.org. Beleg Tâl (talk) 18:24, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

Withdrawn

Description	Page for this item on Hymnary.org
Represents	hymnary.org (Q18206550)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	hymn texts, hymn tunes, hymnals, authors, instances (i.e. editions),
Allowed values	URL of the form https://hymnary.org/*
Example 1	Our God, Our Help in Ages Past (Q7110660) → https://hymnary.org/text/our_god_our_help_in_ages_past_watts
Example 2	Isaac Watts (Q537034) → https://hymnary.org/person/Watts_Isaac
Example 3	The Army and Navy Hymnal (Q50308756) → https://hymnary.org/hymnal/ANH1921
Example 4	Our God, Our Help in Ages Past (Q57952536) → https://hymnary.org/hymn/ANH1921/1
Example 5	St. Anne (Q59613384) → https://hymnary.org/tune/st_anne_croft
Planned use	Authority control for relevant items linked to Wikisource

Motivation edit

Public database of hymnological information that would be useful to link with WD contents especially in collaboration with the Wikisources Beleg Tâl (talk) 15:55, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

Support; Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 17:27, 10 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support David (talk) 07:15, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Question: Why doesn't this have an 'external ID' datatype? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:23, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Question: I agree with User:Pigsonthewing. This should probably be a 'external ID' datatype. Todrobbins (talk) 20:53, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Answer: because I don't know what 'external ID' datatypes are, and each database item has a unique URL... so URL was the best option I knew of. If 'external ID' is better then let's do it. I've updated the proposal accordingly. Beleg Tâl (talk) 01:31, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Gerwoman (talk) 18:52, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Please see this Wikidata:Property proposal/Hymnary author ID. --Gerwoman (talk) 19:02, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My plan was to propose separate properties for them separately over time, but I have no objection to a combined property. Gamaliel (talk) 23:52, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose With current name and description. The description tells me nothing about what kind of content the property points to. There's also no explanation why the description says "page" when normally our external identifier properties don't. The current examples also contain questionable values (e.g. full urls). ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 12:16, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChristianKl: suggested alternatives? Beleg Tâl (talk) 13:29, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - Name might be "Hymnary ID". Description might be "identifier for a hymn text, hymn tune, hymnal, author or ?instance? on Hymnary.org, ***short explanation of what Hymnary.org is***" ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 18:17, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    - Support these suggested changes Beleg Tâl (talk) 13:39, 30 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Note Hymnary author ID (P6300) has already been created, so we should avoid having this general property which would cover the same ground. Specific proposals for texts and tunes make sense. Maybe a single property covering the other types (hymnals, ?) would be ok though? ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:38, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per ArthurPSmith. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 11:14, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]