Wikidata:Property proposal/Vesti.ru dossier ID

Vesti.ru dossier ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

   Done: Vesti.ru dossier ID (P10350) (Talk and documentation)

Description	reference identifier for the Russian site Vesti.ru
Represents	Vesti.ru (Q4109591)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	human (Q5), organization (Q43229), occurrence (Q1190554)
Example 1	Katyn massacre (Q134301) → 2014016
Example 2	Xi Jinping (Q15031) → 1880811
Example 3	All-Russia People's Front (Q730786) → 1980307
Example 4	Silvio Berlusconi (Q11860) → 1772091
Source	https://www.vesti.ru/tag/досье
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	for usage in stated in (P248) and for Template:Authority control (Q3907614)
Number of IDs in source	unknown
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://www.vesti.ru/article/$1
Robot and gadget jobs	Maybe check captures in Internet Archive for just in case?
See also	RIA Novosti reference (P6081), TASS reference (P6219)
Wikidata project	Russia

Motivation

The Internet edition Vesti.ru is one of the most popular news sites in Runet along with TASS and RIA Novosti. Being also the official site of the Vesti TV program, it also contains dossiers on famous personalities, significant organizations and dates. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 07:50, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Support --Carlobia (talk) 08:12, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
• MasterRus21thCentury (talk) Infovarius (talk) MaksOttoVonStirlitz (talk) evs (talk) putnik (talk) Niklitov (talk) Redboston (talk) Arbnos (talk) Erokhin (talk) Андрей Романенко (talk) AndyVolykhov (talk) Vladimir Solovjev (talk) Stolbovsky (talk) Brateevsky (talk) Podbrushkin (talk)
  Notified participants of WikiProject Russia,
  Vladimir Alexiev Jonathan Groß Andy Mabbett Jneubert Sic19 Wikidelo ArthurPSmith PKM Ettorerizza Fuzheado Daniel Mietchen Iwan.Aucamp Epìdosis Sotho Tal Ker Bargioni Carlobia Pablo Busatto Matlin Msuicat Uomovariabile Silva Selva 1-Byte Alessandra.Moi CamelCaseNick Songceci moz AhavaCohen Kolja21 RShigapov Jason.nlw MasterRus21thCentury Newt713 Pierre Tribhou Powerek38 Ahatd JordanTimothyJames Silviafanti Back ache AfricanLibrarian M.roszkowski Rhagfyr Haseeb 沈澄心 MrBenjo S.v.Mering
  Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control — MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 07:50, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
• Not sure. The link shows a brief information about the person, it can be useful. But on the other hand, this is clearly a pro-Kremlin resource. Carn (talk) 10:23, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

  Но те же РИА Новости и ТАСС - тоже государственные информагентства России и по ним тоже есть свойства Викиданных. Однако сайт Вестей перестал обновлять свойства в 2013 году, в то время как у РИА Новости есть куда более старые биографии и справки. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 11:10, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

  I do not think it is a problem for Wikidata. The identifiers are not required to be neutral.  Support Wikisaurus (talk) 21:49, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

  Is Great Soviet Encyclopedia (Q234535) neutral? Should it has identifier? Сидик из ПТУ (talk) 22:36, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

•  Support, an important property for Russia.--Arbnos (talk) 23:42, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
• WikiProject every politician has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. —MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 05:34, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
• WikiProject Properties has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. —MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 05:35, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
•  Support Сидик из ПТУ (talk) 22:35, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
•  Support Will be useful source for elements from Russia.Redboston (talk) 15:38, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

@MasterRus21thCentury, Carn, Wikisaurus, Сидик из ПТУ, Arbnos: @Сидик из ПТУ, Redboston:  Done Vesti.ru dossier ID (P10350) Pamputt (talk) 06:22, 11 February 2022 (UTC)