Property talk:P1071

Latest comment: 6 months ago by Vicarage in topic Remove country constraint ?

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location of creation
place where the item was conceived or made; where applicable, location of final assembly
Data typeItem
Domainartificial physical object (Q8205328), automobile model (Q3231690), ship class (Q559026), group of works (Q17489659), tram (Q3407658), food (Q2095), product model (Q10929058), physical location (Q17334923), work (Q386724), musical release (Q2031291), fictional artificial entity (Q98142361), fictional creative work (Q15306849), meme (Q978), organization (Q43229), alphabet (Q9779), creative work (Q17537576), literary character (Q3658341), material (Q214609) or weapon (Q728)
ExampleMona Lisa (Q12418)Florence (Q2044)
Statue of Liberty (Q9202)Liberty Island (Q319821)
Mary Celeste (Q33209)Spencer's Island (Q14875773)
C-3PO (Q51787)Tatooine (Q723764)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P1071 (Q20990049)
<complementary property>country of origin (P495)
See alsomanufacturer (P176), country of origin (P495), fabrication method (P2079), location (P276), place of publication (P291), recording location (P8546)
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Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total101,539
Main statement100,94099.4% of uses
Qualifier5710.6% of uses
Reference28<0.1% of uses
Search for values
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Contemporaries:
if [item A] has this property (location of creation (P1071)) linked to [item B],
then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Recumbent woman (Q31033426)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1071#Contemporary, SPARQL
Property “instance of (P31)” declared by target items of “location of creation (P1071): If [item A] has this property with value [item B], [item B] is required to have property “instance of (P31)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1071#Target required claim P31, SPARQL, SPARQL (by value)
Value type “geographical feature (Q618123), fictional location (Q3895768), physical location (Q17334923), music festival (Q868557): This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value geographical feature (Q618123), fictional location (Q3895768), physical location (Q17334923), music festival (Q868557) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1071#Value type Q618123, Q3895768, Q17334923, Q868557, SPARQL
Type “artificial physical object (Q8205328), automobile model (Q3231690), ship class (Q559026), group of works (Q17489659), tram (Q3407658), food (Q2095), product model (Q10929058), physical location (Q17334923), work (Q386724), musical release (Q2031291), fictional artificial entity (Q98142361), fictional creative work (Q15306849), meme (Q978), organization (Q43229), alphabet (Q9779), creative work (Q17537576), literary character (Q3658341), material (Q214609), weapon (Q728): item must contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)” with classes “artificial physical object (Q8205328), automobile model (Q3231690), ship class (Q559026), group of works (Q17489659), tram (Q3407658), food (Q2095), product model (Q10929058), physical location (Q17334923), work (Q386724), musical release (Q2031291), fictional artificial entity (Q98142361), fictional creative work (Q15306849), meme (Q978), organization (Q43229), alphabet (Q9779), creative work (Q17537576), literary character (Q3658341), material (Q214609), weapon (Q728)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1071#Type Q8205328, Q3231690, Q559026, Q17489659, Q3407658, Q2095, Q10929058, Q17334923, Q386724, Q2031291, Q98142361, Q15306849, Q978, Q43229, Q9779, Q17537576, Q3658341, Q214609, Q728, SPARQL
Conflicts with “instance of (P31): Wikimedia template (Q11266439), Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1071#Conflicts with P31, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Conflicts with “location of formation (P740): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1071#Conflicts with P740, search, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200), Wikibase MediaInfo (Q59712033): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1071#Entity types
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1071#Conflicts with P31, SPARQL
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1071#Scope, SPARQL
 
Fictional
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Violations query: SELECT ?item ?value { ?item wdt:P1071 ?value. ?value wdt:P31/wdt:P279* wd:Q3895768. FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P1080 [] } FILTER NOT EXISTS {?item (wdt:P31/wdt:P279*|wdt:P279*) wd:Q14897293} }
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1071#Fictional
 
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Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Manufactured objects edit

I would propose that for manufactured objects, the valid value is the assembly plant, not the place where parts were made. For ships, I think we can provide the shipyard here. --Zolo (talk) 06:17, 19 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

No! For ships use P198 (P198) for the shipyard. Use this property only for ships not built in a proper shipyard. /ℇsquilo 10:25, 8 April 2014 (UTC)Reply
@Esquilo: I guess that no longer applies...--Micru (talk) 09:12, 15 November 2016 (UTC)Reply
Current practice is to use manufacturer (P176) for the shipyard. Revent (talk) 14:29, 3 March 2017 (UTC)Reply
But manufacturer (P176) is actually a company who is building particular ship, and this company can own few shipyards in different places..! Or company can even have a headquarters (and registration) in one place, but shipyards who is physically assembling ships in another place ! This property (location of creation (P1071)) is specifying an actual "place of final assembly". I think we also can use this property as a qualifier to manufacturer (P176). --Rodion 4000+ (talk) 04:01, 21 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

Propose rename edit

Given that "final assembly" is not relevant to many of the artworks this property is applied to, I propose the label be modified to simply "location of creation", and details about final assembly, where applicable, should only go in the property description.--Pharos (talk) 20:51, 6 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

Yes I agree. The "final" part of the name sounds like some old dispute about parts and/or packaging and shouldn't be in there. For most things it is not relevant as qualifiers can do the rest. Jane023 (talk) 12:00, 8 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I strongly agree, for books, paintings, records and many other creative works the phrasing 'final assembly' seems out of place --OlafJanssen (talk) 17:40, 16 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Pharos: thanks for bringing this up and changing it. A good improvement. Multichill (talk) 21:18, 5 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Mountain as location of creation edit

Why can't I state a mountain as location of creation (P1071)? I tried it on Commons SDC but there is a value-type constraint (Q21510865). A mountain is currently not considered to be a geographic region (Q82794). I think either that should be changed or the value type constraint should be changed to also include mountains.--Leit (talk) 08:32, 20 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Allow materials edit

Could material (Q214609) or perhaps product (Q2424752) be permitted to have a location of creation (P1071)? Currently, Buchberg sandstone (Q106405643)location of creation (P1071)Guntliweid Quarry (Q106405518) is getting marked as a type constraint violation. --Sascha (talk) 08:32, 7 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Conflicts with country constraint edit

I removed the conflicts-with constraint (Q21502838) country (P17) constraint as it currently has about 13.000 violations (about 17%) and quite a few are legitimate usage. Quite a few are in cases where multiple domains overlap (like art and cultural heritage). Multichill (talk) 11:20, 30 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Remove country constraint ? edit

Hi,

Given that 66 043 of 87 418 items (about 76 % !) don't have a country of origin (P495), and since it can be (more or less easily) infered in most case, I suggest to remove the P495 constraint.

@Multichill, Martimpassos, Danrok, MartinPoulter, Daniel Baránek, Nvrandow: @Jane023, Bodhisattwa, Ederporto: (top user of this property) what do you think ?

Cheers, VIGNERON en résidence (talk) 12:23, 21 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

I support that change. I think country of origin (P495) is useful to have, but need not be a requirement. MartinPoulter (talk) 11:13, 2 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
I have removed the constraint. For one reason I want to use this property for ideas that were derived at a regional, not country level. Vicarage (talk) 12:19, 2 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
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