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fictional analog of
used to link an entity or class of entities appearing in a creative work with the analogous entity or class of entities in the real world
Descriptionused to link a class of items appearing in a creative work with the analogous class of objects in the real word
Data typeItem
Domain
According to this template: generic, every concept (class) used in a fiction (for example, a sword) - subclasses of fictional entity (Q14897293)
According to statements in the property:
fictional entity (Q14897293) and mythical entity (Q24334685)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed valuescorresponding but non-fictional item (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Examplefictional spacecraft (Q14637321)spacecraft (Q40218)
fictional taxon (Q15707583)taxon (Q16521)
SourceRéférence externe, article de liste de Wikipédia (soit infobox, soit source) (note: this information should be moved to a property statement; use property source website for the property (P1896))
See alsodepicts (P180), based on (P144), inspired by (P941)
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Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses843
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  Type “fictional entity (Q14897293), mythical entity (Q24334685): element must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “fictional entity (Q14897293), mythical entity (Q24334685)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1074#type Q14897293, Q24334685, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1074#Single value, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Known exceptions: fictional human (Q15632617), historical character (Q3375731)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1074#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value), SPARQL (new)


NoticeEdit

TomT0m, Shisma, Arctic.gnome, this property is now available. Emw (talk) 17:58, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Some questionsEdit

Sorry, I somehow missed this proposal, I have raised a couple of questions on Wikidata talk:Wikiproject Fictional universes. -Zolo (talk) 06:07, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Same here, I missed it, too. And I have encouraged the critique you raised at Wikidata talk:Wikiproject Fictional universes#use of "fictional" items there. --Marsupium (talk) 13:46, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

depicts (P180)?Edit

I'd prefer based on (P144) instead. --Infovarius (talk) 07:40, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

physical embodiment of a given conceptEdit

P1074: "used to link a class of items appearing in a creative work with the analogous class of objects in the real world" - the same? --Fractaler (talk) 12:20, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Based on the description, manifestation of (P1557) is not limited to creative works (like 1074). d1g (talk) 09:47, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
@Fractaler, D1gggg: No. This other property is based on the FRBR concept of "manifestation", which links for example a musical album to the CD object it was engraved on, or a musical album to one of its recording. It links a character of a play to one precise time an actor or an actress played this a specific day on a theater. It's very different from this property that links a character to the real person whom its supposed to represent - say "Abraham Lincoln" to the analog in Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter (Q587707)    . Maybe in this case we should however just use inspired by (P941)  . author  TomT0m / talk page 10:02, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for the FRBR reference, it wasn't clear before your comment! d1g (talk) 18:47, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Only for classes?Edit

Does it mean that Earth-that-was (Q17781684) fictional analog of (P1074) Earth (Q2) is wrong? --Loominade (talk) 15:30, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

I guess as mentioned above statements with based on (P144) fits in those cases. author  TomT0m / talk page 17:12, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
based on (P144) should be used for works used as a basis - at least according to the proposal and quite a few descriptions. The earth is not a work. I think inspired by (P941) is a good alternative.
But actually I don't know why we should not use P1074 on instances. Sometimes a fictional entity represents some real entity by reference (name, etc). It should be possible to say that this entity is said to be that other entity. A fictional entity can be inspired by/based on some other entity without actually representing that other entity. And a fictional entity can represent another entity without actually being "based on" it (there may be only few similarities apart from the name). - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 08:20, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
I went ahead and changed the property constraints and English description to allow individuals, too. Feel free to discuss and revert if there are any problems. - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 11:27, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
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