Property talk:P1098

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number of speakers, writers, or signers
number of people who use a language

Description	number of speakers
Represents	number of speakers (Q23892516)
Data type	Quantity
Template parameter	"speakers" in w:en:Template:Infobox language
Domain	According to this template: languages, language families (?) According to statements in the property: languoid (Q17376908) or language group (Q941501) When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values	0 ≤ 𝓧 ≤ 3,000,000,000
Allowed units	not applicable
Example	Welsh (Q9309) -> 720,000 (2004-2011, total), 560,000 (Wales (Q25), 2004-2006, total), 320,000 (Wales (Q25), 2004-2006, fluent only), 5,000 (Chubut Province (Q45007)) (note: this information should be moved to a property statement; use property Wikidata property example (P1855), Wikidata property example for properties (P2271), Wikidata property example for lexemes (P5192), Wikidata property example for forms (P5193) or Wikidata property example for senses (P5977))
Source	many estimates on enwiki come from Ethnologue, particularly for languages with few speakers (note: this information should be moved to a property statement; use property source website for the property (P1896))
Robot and gadget jobs	similar to above: bots can do well but not perfect
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P1098 (Q26250007)
See also	literate population (P6499), illiterate population (P6498)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Minimum and maximum Items with highest numeric value Items with lowest numeric value User:Laboramus/Units/P1098 (Units used) Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1098 Database reports/Constraint violations/P1098 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 2,956 Main statement 2,597 87.9% of uses Qualifier 358 12.1% of uses Reference 1 <0.1% of uses

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Range from “0” to “3000000000”: values should be in the range from “0” to “3000000000”. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1098#Range, hourly updated report

Type “languoid (Q17376908), language group (Q941501)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “languoid (Q17376908), language group (Q941501)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1098#Type Q17376908, Q941501, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Units: “novalue”: value unit must be one of listed. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1098#Units, hourly updated report

Required qualifier “point in time (P585)”: this property should be used with the listed qualifier. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1098#mandatory qualifier, SPARQL

Integer: values should be integers (ie. they shouldn't have a fractional part) (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1098#integer, SPARQL

Required qualifier “determination method (P459)”: this property should be used with the listed qualifier. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1098#mandatory qualifier, SPARQL

Citation needed: the property must have at least one reference (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1098#citation needed

Single best value: this property generally contains a single value. If there are several, one would have preferred rank (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1098#single best value, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1098#Entity types

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1098#Scope, SPARQL

Maybe a mistake in P1098
Compare the number of human who spoken the language in database and the other number (Help)
Violations query: SELECT ?item ?nbHuman ?nbLocuteur { ?item wdt:P1098 ?nbLocuteur { SELECT ?item (COUNT (?human) AS ?nbHuman) { ?human wdt:P1412 ?item. # spoken language } GROUP BY ?item } FILTER (?nbHuman > ?nbLocuteur) FILTER (?nbLocuteur > 2000) FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q45762 } FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q33384 } FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?item wdt:P156 [] } }
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1098#Maybe a mistake in P1098

This property is being used by: ru:Шаблон:Искусственный язык, ru:Шаблон:Язык, ru:Шаблон:Языковая группа hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Լեզու, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Լեզու արւմտ. ia:Patrono:Infobox/typo/languoid, ia:Patrono:Infobox/articulo/lingua m:Template:New wiki request/WD vo:Samafomot:Pükataib ba:Ҡалып:Wikidata/p1098 tg:Шаблон:Wikidata/p1098 ca:Plantilla:Infotaula de llengua, ca:Plantilla:Infotaula família lingüística, ca:Plantilla:Infotaula llengua eo:Ŝablono:Informkesto lingvo, eo:Ŝablono:Informkesto lingvo/provejo, eo:Ŝablono:Informkesto lingvo/dokumentado, eo:Ŝablono:Informkesto lingva familio/dokumentado tt:Калып:Тел inh:Ло:Язык ast:Plantía:Idioma fr:Modèle:Infobox Langue diq:Şablon:Infobox language, diq:Şablon:Zıwan, diq:Şablon:Zıwani vec:Modèl:Łengoa, vec:Modèl:Infobox de Łéngua, vec:Modeło:Infobox de Łéngua uk:Шаблон:Мова cs:Šablona:Infobox - jazyk zh-yue:Template:維基數據語言明細 uz:Andoza:Til bilgiqutisi ga:Teimpléad:WD Bosca Sonraí Teanga be-x-old:Шаблён:Інфармацыя пра мову be-tarask:Шаблён:Інфармацыя пра мову yue:Template:維基數據語言明細 kaa:Úlgi:Til maǵqutısı Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Native speakers?

How do we indicate native vs. non-native speakers? πr² (t • c) 17:14, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Maybe using a qualifier. P518 would work, but would not be ideal. --Jakob (talk) 17:48, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

What would the value for P518 qualifier be? πr² (t • c) 17:51, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

applies to part (P518) --> native speaker (Q924130) or applies to part (P518) --> NON-NATIVE SPEAKERS --Jakob (talk) 18:20, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Creating a class, something like

⟨ Mrs X. ⟩ instance of (P31) ⟨ native english speaker ⟩

⟨ q924130 ⟩ subclass of (P279) ⟨ english speaker ⟩

is also an option. TomT0m ^(talk) 19:02, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

For every language? πr² (t • c) 20:04, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

speakers of a written language?

Bokmål (Q25167) has 4,000,000 "speakers"? -- Innocent bystander (talk) 11:39, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

I realise this is a really old question, but yes, speaking is not limited to oral communication. See the third meaning on en:wikt:speak. - Nikki (talk) 09:10, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Add "as qualifier" to property scope constraint

It seems there is a valid use case for this property as a qualifier. (e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q30#Q30$43354A54-19B2-435C-9D64-F50983CB755A)

Moreover, this property is currently used 319 times as a qualifier on Wikidata (query).

BaubLeBuidler (talk) 16:47, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

I've changed it to include qualifiers. - Nikki (talk) 08:56, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

determination method?

What are potential "determination method[s]"? Most languages with P1098 don't use this field even though it is required. If the entry is properly sourced, I don't think "determination method" makes sense. A455bcd9 (talk) 09:09, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

OK, based on the example Q67331933 it can be for instance "census" or "estimate". I assume it'll be "estimate" for 99% of figures we have. I therefore suggest we remove this constraint. A455bcd9 (talk) 09:11, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

remove 'single-best-value constraint'

Unless I am missing some wikidata subtlety (which is possible), I believe this is typically a property where there should be no 'single-best-value constraint'. Estimating the number of speakers in a language is ofter hard and a bit hazardous, and can vary a lot depending on the retained criterion, and it's not possible to say that one is better than the other (should a person able to repeat some stereotyped sentences be considered a locutor? Most surveys just ask people if they are able to speak, and many people can answer they are while actually they can hardly stand a whole conversation in the language). CaféBuzz (talk) 17:07, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

How many languages contains two or more current values which can be all "the best"? Infovarius (talk) 17:00, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Currently I don't know. But possibly a lot. Considering that there are several thousands of languages spoken in the world, and that a huge majority of them are actually minorized languages in danger of extinction (which means that in many case their speakers are not monolingual and speak a very deteriorated version of the language, which makes the census of actual speaker hard and always a bit subjective). I understand that if the practice here is to maintain this parameter unless it's actually problematic with an important proportion of items it's ok. I am basically concretely refering to is Q14185, where there are at least two scholarly credible estimations very disparate (from ~100 k to ~5k speakers ; I removed the estimation you put in, from russian wikipedia, that gave almost 2 M speaker, which seems really implausible). When I posted this message, I though (erroneously?) that from a maintenance point of view, items that infringe constraints were considered like having a problem to be fixed eventually. If this is not the case and if the quantity of affected items is limited, I understand it can be ok to leave it like this. CaféBuzz (talk) 17:21, 24 May 2023 (UTC)