Property talk:P1104

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number of pages
number of pages in an edition of a written work

Description	Total number of pages that contains the book, article, etc.
Represents	page (Q1069725)
Data type	Quantity
Domain	According to this template: Mainly published materials. According to statements in the property: version, edition, or translation (Q3331189), volume (Q1238720), issue (Q28869365), report (Q10870555), book (Q571), manuscript (Q87167), webcomic (Q213369), article (Q191067), thesis (Q1266946), programme (Q1508646), chapter (Q1980247), Institutional act (Q2018524), comic story (Q56855534), research proposal (Q947859), document (Q49848), scientific work (Q11826511), publication (Q732577) and xiaoshuo (Q59126) When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed units	not applicable, page (Q1069725), tipped-in page (Q17109349) and Roman-numbered page (Q56761382)
Example	According to this template: A Game of Thrones 1st ed UK hardback <total number of pages> 672 According to statements in the property: The Diary of a Young Girl (Q14624815) → 223 When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P1104 (Q23909079)
See also	page(s) (P304)
Lists	Items with the most statements Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other statements Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history Chart by item creation date <Items with highest numeric value> <Items with lowest numeric value> User:Laboramus/Units/P1104 (Units used) Database reports/Constraint violations/P1104
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Current uses	96,554

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Units: “novalue, page (Q1069725), tipped-in page (Q17109349), Roman-numbered page (Q56761382)”: value unit must be one of listed. (Help) List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1104#Units, hourly updated report, SPARQL (new)

Range from “1” to “100000”: values should be in the range from “1” to “100000”. (Help) Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Known exceptions: Siku Quanshu (Q699477) List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1104#Range, SPARQL (new)

Type “version, edition, or translation (Q3331189), volume (Q1238720), issue (Q28869365), report (Q10870555), book (Q571), manuscript (Q87167), webcomic (Q213369), article (Q191067), thesis (Q1266946), programme (Q1508646), chapter (Q1980247), Institutional act (Q2018524), comic story (Q56855534), research proposal (Q947859), document (Q49848), scientific work (Q11826511), publication (Q732577), xiaoshuo (Q59126)”: element must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “version, edition, or translation (Q3331189), volume (Q1238720), issue (Q28869365), report (Q10870555), book (Q571), manuscript (Q87167), webcomic (Q213369), article (Q191067), thesis (Q1266946), programme (Q1508646), chapter (Q1980247), Institutional act (Q2018524), comic story (Q56855534), research proposal (Q947859), document (Q49848), scientific work (Q11826511), publication (Q732577), xiaoshuo (Q59126)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help) Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1104#type Q3331189, Q1238720, Q28869365, Q10870555, Q571, Q87167, Q213369, Q191067, Q1266946, Q1508646, Q1980247, Q2018524, Q56855534, Q947859, Q49848, Q11826511, Q732577, Q59126, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)

Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help) Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1104#scope, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)

Integer: values should be integers (ie. they shouldn't have a fractional part) (Help) Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1104#integer, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)

This property is being used by: ru:Шаблон:Издание be:Шаблон:Літаратурны твор hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Գիրք tt:Калып:Басма en:Template:Infobox book, en:Template:Infobox book/wikidata, en:Template:Infobox book/Wikidata/Filtered kab:Talɣa:Infobox adlis, kab:Talɣa:Infobox intellectual work sr:Шаблон:Infokutija Knjiga-lat, sr:Шаблон:Инфокутија Књига fa:الگو:Infobox book/wikidata, fa:الگو:Infobox book, fa:الگو:Infobox book/تمرین tg:Шаблон:Infobox book/wikidata, tg:Шаблон:Интишор ca:Plantilla:Infotaula d'encíclica, ca:Plantilla:Infotaula de llibre, ca:Plantilla:Infotaula document ja:Template:基礎情報 書籍, ja:Template:基礎情報 書籍/WikidataIB sco:Template:Infobox beuk ba:Ҡалып:Издание sq:Stampa:Infobox book uk:Шаблон:Картка книги, uk:Шаблон:Видання, uk:Шаблон:Видання Наш Формат, uk:Шаблон:Перекладена книга bh:टेम्पलेट:Infobox book ml:ഫലകം:Infobox book es:Plantilla:Ficha de obra de teatro ne:ढाँचा:Infobox book ms:Templat:Infobox buku, ms:Templat:Kotak info buku ce:Кеп:Арахецар te:మూస:Book, te:మూస:Infobox book simple:Template:Infobox book ka:თარგი:ინფოდაფა წიგნი ko:틀:책 정보 sat:ᱪᱷᱟᱸᱪ:Infobox book azb:شابلون:Infobox book gl:Modelo:Ficha de obra de teatro, gl:Modelo:Obra de teatro pt:Predefinição:Info/Documento/Wikidata, pt:Predefinição:Info/Livro/Wikidata th:แม่แบบ:กล่องข้อมูล หนังสือ id:Templat:Infobox book/wikidata bn:টেমপ্লেট:তথ্যছক বই ast:Plantía:Llibru, ast:Plantía:Ficha de documentu eu:Txantiloi:Aldizkari infotaula, eu:Txantiloi:Lan infotaula automatikoa, eu:Txantiloi:Lan infotaula ga:Teimpléad:WD Bosca Sonraí Leabhar ha:Template:Infobox intellectual work Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

How do deal with other than simple Arabic numerals numbering?

How do deal with books with other forms of pagination (Q783209)?

• Roman numerals (for the front matter),
• folium rectum and versum numbering,
• column numbering and
• letter numbering?

Thanks for any help! --Marsupium (talk) 16:53, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

@Marsupium: I have tentatively added several alternatives to allowed units constraint (Q21514353) (tipped-in page for plates, and Latin-numbered pages for, well, the obvious), which should hopefully fix this issue. Circeus (talk) 23:55, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

@Circeus: Thank you for that idea! Above it says: "DeltaBot does the following jobs: Remove units". And there are many templates using this property (see above). So I'm afraid it needs more than just changing the constraint. I'm not sure if it's the perfect solution, but perhaps the best we can get. Also, should we broaden the scope of the property and adapt the labels and aliases and also add column (Q2306599)? --Marsupium (talk) 08:30, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Deltabot isn't a problem because unless I'm mistaken, it takes its cue from the property definition here, so the units as defined here don't trigger it. Circeus (talk) 16:20, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

What to do if a book has, for example, 200 pages numbered with arabic numbers and 10 pages numbered with roman numerals:

number of pages (P1104) 200 page number of pages (P1104) 10 roman-numbered page

OR

number of pages (P1104) 210 page number of pages (P1104) 10 roman-numbered page?--Malore (talk) 02:32, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

So far I've entered it as the first case (in bibliographical description, this would normally be given as 200+x os something along those lines). Circeus (talk) 11:04, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

@Circeus, Marsupium: Today I added P1104 statements to Q61976455 with units (Roman/Arabic) as described above, and DeltaBot removed the units within minutes. Do you think this should be reported as an error at User talk:DeltaBot? — Ipoellet (talk) 20:23, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Absolutely! I can't swear on it (I am no programmer), but unless I am mistaken, Deltabot will always delete any and all units (it's not even having hardcoded units, much less pulling them dynamically from the constraint), which is most certainly undesirable! Circeus (talk) 23:42, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

The bot owner has removed that task from the bot now. While I'd prefer the bot checked against the constraint, this is also acceptable. Circeus (talk) 11:59, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Use on issue (Q28869365)

Is the use of this property on issue (Q28869365) OK? It currently fails the type constraint, like on Supplement to The London Gazette 51981 (Q56057169). Ghouston (talk) 06:24, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

I added issue (Q28869365) as an allowed value on the constraint. Ghouston (talk) 23:50, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Use on document (Q49848)

Should this property be allowed on document (Q49848)? It currently fails the type constraint, like on number of pages (P1104) of Request for New Language Code Element [rgn] in ISO 639-3 (Q61685511). — Sascha (talk) 19:54, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

•  Support using this property on document (Q49848) Dhx1 (talk) 12:07, 3 June 2019 (UTC)