Property talk:P1240
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Danish scientific level of research publications, coordinated with the nordic list of publication channels. See also item {{q|Q57408668}}
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1240#allowed qualifiers, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1240#Entity types
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1240#Type Q47461344, SPARQL
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- The item is not only valid for periodical (Q1092563) and publisher (Q2085381) but also for conferences and series of books.
- I suppose that in the futures we might see updates to the ranking, so I think it would be relevant with a qualifier to each value. It is unclear to me what would be the best way to represent the qualifier. For the moment I have used point in time (P585) on PLOS One (Q564954) [1].
- The data for the property for periodical (Q1092563), conferences and book series is available as an Excel sheet (as well as a PDF) from http://library.au.dk/fileadmin/DJF/DCA/Bibliotek/BFI_2012_Excel.xls which should be botable.
— Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 13:35, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi Finn, I will be able to load all of the data if Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control#Danish Bibliometric Research Indicator (BFI) SNO/CNO is approved, like I did with ERA Journal ID (P1058) and mostly done for Scopus source ID (P1156) (I need to run some audit checks on that). My bot already has approval to do the Danish dataset; see Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/JVbot 2. See also Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2014/02#Academic journal database.
Above you have said that this indicator is valid for .. series of book. I believe the Serials and Conferences use the same identifier in the Danish dataset, and book publishers are ranked in a different dataset, but individual books are not. Are series of books part of serials and conferences, or part of the book publishers?
When I loaded the ERA dataset, I added a qualifier for the source, for the two main editions of ERA Journal ID (P1058). When loading the BFI, I can add a point in time (P585) qualifier also if you want. I will be happy to load the data for as many years of Danish history as you (or others) think is useful.
I am also considering whether to load the Norwegian level indicator into this property. I suspect that the Danish and Norwegian value is almost always identical, in which case a qualifier for Norwegian vs Danish would work for the few instances where they differed. However I am not going to do any analysis unless the Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control properties are approved, as the data maintenance cant be automated without links to the source system. John Vandenberg (talk) 14:36, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, John. Thanks for the explanation. I have supported the identifiers now. Series of books ("bogserier" in [2]) are listed the among the serials, - not the book publishers.
- Thanks. We now have Danish Bibliometric Research Indicator (BFI) SNO/CNO (P1250). btw, before listing it as an authority control property proposal I checked spreadsheets back to 2009,[3] and the IDs allocated are stable. I am currently preparing to start the bot upload. John Vandenberg (talk) 14:51, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
- Hi, John Vandenberg. I made an attempt to visualize this property in infoboxes for scientific journals in Danish, Norweigan and Swedish Wikipedia. As a three star ranking. See for example no:Nature, where you also see the corresponding Norweighan level manually entered into the template. This means it would be helpful if a bot could update the P1240 data. I'd like to somehow visualize the scientific level in citation templates as well, but in a much more compact way. In these times of fake news, adding more source quality assessment properties - like this one - to Wikidata is very interesting. Tomastvivlaren (talk) 21:22, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. We now have Danish Bibliometric Research Indicator (BFI) SNO/CNO (P1250). btw, before listing it as an authority control property proposal I checked spreadsheets back to 2009,[3] and the IDs allocated are stable. I am currently preparing to start the bot upload. John Vandenberg (talk) 14:51, 15 April 2014 (UTC)