Property talk:P1307

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Omnilaika02 in topic Work location

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Swiss parliament ID
identifier for a member of the Swiss Parliament since 1848
Descriptionid in the Swiss Parliament's "Database concerning members of parliament since 1848" (more than 3400 persons)
Applicable "stated in" valueparlament.ch council member database (Q77532118)
Data typeExternal identifier
Template parameterTemplate:Parliament.ch (Q14375425) : fr:Modèle:Parlement.ch, de:Vorlage:Parlament.ch, it:Template:Parlamento.ch, en:Template:Parliament.ch
Domainhuman (Q5)
Allowed values[1-9][0-9]{0,3} (numeric string, 1 to 4 digits)
ExampleJean Guinand (Q3172438)99
Charles Friderici (Q110622391)249
Fulvio Pelli (Q115877)345
Formatter URLhttps://www.parlament.ch/en/biografie/wd/$1
https://www.parlament.ch/rm/biografie/wd/$1
https://www.parlament.ch/it/biografie/wd/$1
https://www.parlament.ch/fr/biografie/wd/$1
https://www.parlament.ch/de/biografie/wd/$1
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P1307 (Q50823493)
Related to country  Switzerland (Q39) (See 74 others)
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Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total4,661
Main statement2,835 out of 3,615 (78% complete)60.8% of uses
Qualifier3<0.1% of uses
Reference1,82339.1% of uses
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Format “[1-9][0-9]{0,4}: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1307#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1307#Single value, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1307#Unique value, hourly updated report, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)
Item “sex or gender (P21): Items with this property should also have “sex or gender (P21)”. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1307#Item P21, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL
Item “occupation (P106): politician (Q82955): Items with this property should also have “occupation (P106): politician (Q82955)”. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1307#Item P106, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL
Item “date of birth (P569): Items with this property should also have “date of birth (P569)”. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1307#Item P569, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Item “given name (P735): Items with this property should also have “given name (P735)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1307#Item P735, search, SPARQL
Item “member of political party (P102): Items with this property should also have “member of political party (P102)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1307#Item P102, search, SPARQL
Item “languages spoken, written or signed (P1412): Items with this property should also have “languages spoken, written or signed (P1412)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1307#Item P1412, search, SPARQL
Type “human (Q5): item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “human (Q5)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1307#Type Q5, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Item “family name (P734): Items with this property should also have “family name (P734)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1307#Item P734, search, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1307#Entity types
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1307#Scope, SPARQL
 

Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

 
200 CN sans date de fin
il devrait y avoir 200 membres (Help)
Violations query: SELECT (wd:Q5 as ?item) (COUNT(DISTINCT ?p) as ?ct) (?ct=200 as ?ok) { ?p p:P39 ?st1 . ?st1 ps:P39 wd:Q18510612 . ?st1 pq:P580 ?a1 . FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?st1 pq:P582 ?z1 } } GROUP BY ?item
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1307#200 CN sans date de fin
 
46 CE sans date de fin
il devrait y avoir 46 membres (Help)
Violations query: SELECT (wd:Q5 as ?item) (COUNT(DISTINCT ?p) as ?ct) (?ct=46 as ?ok) { ?p p:P39 ?st1 . ?st1 ps:P39 wd:Q18510613 . ?st1 pq:P580 ?a1 . FILTER NOT EXISTS { ?st1 pq:P582 ?z1 } } GROUP BY ?item
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1307#46 CE sans date de fin


Statements on items / data model for offices edit

Items for members of the parliament currently follow the following model. There is one position statement for every continuous period. This may cover one or several parliamentary terms. This is consistent with various references, notably dhs and the parliament website.

If there non-consecutive periods, several P39 statements are needed.
--- Jura 10:11, 31 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Additional properties edit

family name (P734) seems to be missing frequently. I suggest we add a constraint for that.
--- Jura 10:11, 31 July 2018 (UTC)Reply


Add parliamentary term qualifier? edit

Is there any benefit in adding the qualifier for the parliamentary term to P39 statements? It seems that it can easily be queried with start and end dates.
--- Jura 10:31, 31 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Add electoral district qualifier? edit

It seems helpful to qualify the position for either council with the electoral district .
--- Jura 13:20, 31 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

Work location edit

Hi @Jura1:, why should there be a "Work location: Bern" constrain? This is utterly wrong, as being a MP in Switzerland cannot be qualified as "work" and they are required in Bern only 4 times a year. —Omnilaika02 (talk) 15:21, 16 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

  • It's meant to be mostly the "location of activity". I know some think they don't actually do any work there, but I think that is a mistaken assumption. For other uses of the property, see "Jack the Ripper" mentioned on Property talk:P937. Don't worry too much about adding the statements, it's mostly done by bot/script and I think @Olaf Kosinsky: already added many. Obviously, most items will have other work locations as well. --- Jura 13:24, 17 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
It cannot be qualified as work due to the militia system ; if it's location of the activity as a federal MP, it should be a qualifier of the designated activity and not the whole item ; and the french label should read « lieu d'activité » and not « lieu de travail »… —Omnilaika02 (talk) 09:12, 19 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
Interesting thought. So from what percentage of their work week or income do you think they "work"? --- Jura 15:54, 19 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
It depends on the implication and the number of commissions, and is nowadays considered a 60-80%. But again, due to the milita system, it's not "work" and the property does not accurately describe the reality of the whole person, but does just qualify where the voting process (4x a year) takes place ; it should just be used in "fonction – federal MP". — Omnilaika02 (talk) 16:58, 19 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
It does sound much like a regular employment. They still do that in Bern, dont they? Anyways, if you think the French label of work location (P937) needs changing, feel free to edit it. In any case, I don't think it should be re-scoped in the way you sugggest and the current approach maintained. BTW, please use "residence" (Property:P551) to indicate where they actually live. The advantage of P937 is that they don't need to match. --- Jura 04:43, 20 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
And after being an MP ? Take for example Philippe Nantermod (Q16669767) : according to his website, he works as a lawyer in Sion, and is in Bern when needed by the federal politics. After being an MP, he's gonna keep his page on the federal assembly website, but will no longer "work" in Bern : that's one of the reason why I think the property should describe only said activity. I'm not confident enough to suggest a change in work location (P937) as I do not understand all of the implications of it. I don't get your hint, I always used residence (P551) to indicate where they actually live. —Omnilaika02 (talk) 12:55, 20 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
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