Property talk:P1308
Latest comment: 4 years ago by Jura1 in topic Use instead of head of government (P6)?
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officeholder
persons who hold and/or held an office or noble title
persons who hold and/or held an office or noble title
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Type “position (Q4164871), fictional office, position, or title (Q21451536), noble title (Q355567)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “position (Q4164871), fictional office, position, or title (Q21451536), noble title (Q355567)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1308#Type Q4164871, Q21451536, Q355567, SPARQL
Value type “human (Q5), fictional character (Q95074)”: This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value human (Q5), fictional character (Q95074) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Chief Mouser to the Cabinet Office (Q198641)List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1308#Value type Q5, Q95074, SPARQL
Inverse property of “position held (P39)”:
if [item A] has this property (officeholder (P1308)) linked to [item B],
then [item B] should also have property “position held (P39)” linked to [item A]. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). if [item A] has this property (officeholder (P1308)) linked to [item B],
then [item B] should also have property “position held (P39)” linked to [item A]. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1308#inverse, SPARQL
Qualifiers “replaces (P1365), replaced by (P1366), reason for preferred rank (P7452), start time (P580), end time (P582), series ordinal (P1545), object has role (P3831), latest start date (P8555), earliest end date (P8554), member of cabinet (P5054), appointed by (P748), member of political party (P102), subject named as (P1810), object named as (P1932), end cause (P1534), represents (P1268), together with (P1706), elected in (P2715), parliamentary term (P2937)”: this property should be used only with the listed qualifiers. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1308#allowed qualifiers, SPARQL
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1308#Scope, hourly updated report, SPARQLAllowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1308#Entity types, hourly updated report
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Deletion proposal edit
- Deletion proposal not retained, see debate here (June 2015 - March 2016) – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Laddo (talk • contribs).
Scope edit
When should this one be used? In general, I think we should be using position held (P39).
--- Jura 05:31, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
- I think it should be acceptable to use it for offices that are only held by one person (or a few persons) at a time. I understand the concern when used with huge parliaments and the like, where you can get tens of thousands of claims over time—that clearly becomes unhelpful. But this isn't really different from many other inverse properties (like has part(s) (P527)): some common sense is required on the part of the editor. And in some applications (like Wikipedia), where generic queries are unavailable or too costly, this information can't be easily discovered if it is not listed on the item itself.--Anders Feder (talk) 15:02, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
- I think this should be used when there's an article about position and you want to list a historical overview of all people holding this position at various points of time. For example, this might be a good candidate: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q127710. List articles would be a great use case for this. Vanuan (talk) 02:25, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
- I remove the US president sample as it would just add a triplicate: United States of America (Q30) and Barack Obama (Q76) already had the same information.
--- Jura 11:45, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
Removal of the "applies to jurisdiction" (P1001) constraint edit
This constraint makes no sense for the vast majority of use-cases, where the item linked is a specific office — for example, Q191827 Q208233 Q465869 Q162754. Does anyone have a link to any discussion when this constraint was added? James F. (talk) 21:29, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- You can add "no value" if the suggestion isn't applicable. --- Jura 10:17, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
Use instead of head of government (P6)? edit
Currently, this property shouldn't be used if P6 is present. Maybe we should invert this, see Property_talk:P6#Use_of_office_held_by_head_of_government(P1313)_and_officeholder(P1308). --- Jura 10:17, 27 July 2019 (UTC)