Property talk:P157

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Descriptionperson who killed subject
Representsmurderer (Q931260), executioner (Q207651)
Data typeItem
Domain
According to this template: person (Q215627), organism (Q7239)
According to statements in the property:
human (Q5), fictional character (Q95074) or character that may or may not be fictional (Q21070598)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed valuespeople (and maybe, in exceptional cases, entities, but probably not) (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
ExampleHolofernes (Q625748)Judith (Q3187975)
Archduke Franz Ferdinand (Q43063)Gavrilo Princip (Q80492)
Medusa (Q160730)Perseus (Q130832)
John F. Kennedy (Q9696)Lee Harvey Oswald (Q48745)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P157 (Q26250065)
Lists
Living people protection classproperty likely to be challenged (Q44597997)
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total15,123
Main statement14,41695.3% of uses
Qualifier6964.6% of uses
Reference11<0.1% of uses
Search for values
[create Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here]
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Infinity Stones (Q4405595)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P157#Value type Q5, Q95074, Q43229, Q14514600, Q4271324, Q44554, Q13430821, Q24334685, SPARQL
Item “place of death (P20): Items with this property should also have “place of death (P20)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P157#Item P20, search, SPARQL
Item “date of death (P570): Items with this property should also have “date of death (P570)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P157#Item P570, SPARQL
Contemporaries:
if [item A] has this property (killed by (P157)) linked to [item B],
then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P157#Contemporary, SPARQL
Citation needed: the property must have at least one reference (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P157#citation needed
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P157#Entity types
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P157#Scope, SPARQL
Conflicts with “manner of death (P1196): suicide (Q10737): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P157#Conflicts with P1196, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL
Contemporaries:
if [item A] has this property (P157) linked to [item B],
then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history.
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P157#Contemporary, SPARQL

name and alias edit

I think "killed by" is all that is needed. Assassination only applies to prominent victims such as presidents and heads of state, and killed by covers that anyhow. Danrok (talk) 02:57, 27 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

That's why the aliases aren't listed as the label. But we need them there for the convenience of people typing into the claim box, especially since this property had like 5 different suggested names at WD:PP. — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 18:46, 27 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Why not suicide? edit

I see that people are thinking murder, assassination... but this can work equally well for suicides, can it not, simply by entering the name of the subject for this property? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 02:06, 30 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

I suppose it could work but I'm not a big fan of that idea. Murder and suicide are very distinct things. If people write a query to know the list of people killed by Marilyn Monroe, we should return an empty list. Worse yet, if someone hopes to get the list of victims in the Columbine massacre through the query "people killed by Q2268542", all they're going to get is "Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold". I think that's a pretty bad outcome. Pichpich (talk) 03:44, 30 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
Since Marilyn Monroe killed herself, I don't see why it should return an empty list. But I've stated my argument and won't belabour it. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 03:50, 30 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
I don't know what you mean by the words "murder" and "suicide" that make them very distinct things in your mind, but the label of this property is "killed by", and the very definition of suicide is a person intentionally killing themselves. In other words, "A killed by A" means "A commited suicide". Therefore, we shouldn't return an empty list for the list of people killed by Marilyn Monroe, and I don't see by what reasoning "people killed by Q2268542" would return only "Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold"; it should return their victims as well as themselves. Silver hr (talk) 01:42, 31 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Use manner of death (P1196) to capture information about suicide. The 'killed by' claim can then trivially be inferred; there's no need to add that kind of redundant information. Emw (talk) 18:46, 7 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Inverse property and qualifiers for this? edit

I am trying to use this property and I notice you can link a victim to his/her murderer, but you can't link back - we need the inverse property, which I will propose. Also, I think we need some qualifiers for the property (by gunshot, by strangulation, etc) Jane023 (talk) 08:22, 3 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Inventors killed by their own invention edit

SELECT ?inventor ?inventorLabel ?gadet ?gadgetLabel
WHERE {
  ?inventor wdt:P157 ?gadget .
  ?gadet wdt:P61 ?inventor .
  SERVICE wikibase:label {
    bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "en" .
    ?inventor rdfs:label ?inventorLabel .
    ?gadget rdfs:label ?gadgetLabel .
  }
}
Try it!

--Tobias1984 (talk) 13:19, 24 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Extend this property to organizations edit

Plenty of times a person is killed by an organization in which there is no identifiable person. Examples include:

I think we should include organization (Q43229) en their subclasses as valid values for this property.--Zeroth (talk) 01:55, 21 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

  Done. here.--Zeroth (talk) 21:17, 31 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

Death penalty edit

James Corbitt Q1613613 was hanged by Albert Pierrepoint (Q945914)  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bahnmoeller (talk • contribs) at 22:45, 4 August 2019 (UTC).Reply

Include <type of crash> to manner of death--accident? edit

Is it not possible to add the type of accidents, e.g., car crash, airplane crash to this killed by (P157), see Zheng Zhenduo (Q6124178)? Thank you. ShiehJ (talk) 15:12, 4 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

 
shouldn't that use cause of death (P509)? BrokenSegue (talk) 01:19, 7 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
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