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senat.fr ID
identifier on the website of the French senate

Description	French senators
Associated item	Senate (Q215987)
Applicable "stated in" value	senat.fr (Q111695467)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	human (Q5) (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Allowed values	(senateur(|-[34]eme-republique|-2nd-empire|-communaute)|pair-de-france)/[a-z0-9_]*
Example	Gérard Larcher (Q784021) → senateur/larcher_gerard86034e David Rachline (Q5238859) → senateur/rachline_david14247u
Source	https://www.senat.fr/elus.html
Formatter URL	https://www.senat.fr/$1.html
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P1808 (Q55089835)
Related to country	France (Q142) (See 638 others)
See also	Sycomore ID (P1045), NosSénateurs.fr ID (P7060)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other external identifier Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Map of people by place values: place of birth educated at work location residence place of death place of burial January 1st dates People with date of birth on January 1 People with date of death on January 1 People with both dates on January 1 Mix'n'match (Report) Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1808 Database reports/Humans with missing claims/P1808 Database reports/Constraint violations/P1808 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	[not applicable Proposal discussion]
Current uses	Total 9,899 Main statement 5,081 out of 4,932 (103% complete) 51.3% of uses Qualifier 2 <0.1% of uses Reference 4,816 48.7% of uses
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Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1808#Unique value, hourly updated report, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Format “(senateur(|-[34]eme-republique|-2nd-empire|-communaute)|pair-de-france)/[a-z0-9_]*”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1808#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Item “instance of (P31): human (Q5)”: Items with this property should also have “instance of (P31): human (Q5)”. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1808#Item P31, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL

Item “sex or gender (P21)”: Items with this property should also have “sex or gender (P21)”. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1808#Item P21, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL

Item “date of birth (P569)”: Items with this property should also have “date of birth (P569)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1808#Item P569, SPARQL

Item “place of birth (P19)”: Items with this property should also have “place of birth (P19)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1808#Item P19, search, SPARQL

Item “country of citizenship (P27): France (Q142)”: Items with this property should also have “country of citizenship (P27): France (Q142)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Boubou Hama (Q2912103)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1808#Item P27, search, SPARQL

Item “position held (P39): Senator of the French Fifth Republic (Q14828018), irremovable senator (Q3510904), senator of the Community (Q20177062), senator of the French Third Republic (Q21032547), Senator of the French Fourth Republic (Q21032552), Second Empire senator (Q21032519), Pair of France (Q21032621), member of the Chamber of Peers (Q21032625), Peer of France (Q21034738)”: Items with this property should also have “position held (P39): Senator of the French Fifth Republic (Q14828018), irremovable senator (Q3510904), senator of the Community (Q20177062), senator of the French Third Republic (Q21032547), Senator of the French Fourth Republic (Q21032552), Second Empire senator (Q21032519), Pair of France (Q21032621), member of the Chamber of Peers (Q21032625), Peer of France (Q21034738)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1808#Item P39, search

Item “occupation (P106): politician (Q82955)”: Items with this property should also have “occupation (P106): politician (Q82955)”. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1808#Item P106, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1808#Entity types

Item “position held (P39)”: Items with this property should also have “position held (P39)”. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1808#Item P39, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1808#Scope, SPARQL

This property is being used by: fr:Modèle:Sénateur it:Template:Collegamenti esterni Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Missing date of death
Person born before 1916 with no date of death (Help)
Violations query: SELECT DISTINCT ?item WHERE { ?item wdt:P1808 ?senat; wdt:P31 wd:Q5; wdt:P569 ?date . FILTER (?date < "1916-01-01T00:00:00Z"^^xsd:dateTime) OPTIONAL {?item wdt:P570 ?d } . FILTER (!bound(?d)) }
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1808#Missing date of death

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Bonjour @Nono314, Hsarrazin, Ayack: (top-3 des utilisateurs francophones de cette propriété),

Je viens d'utiliser cette propriété sur Thomas-Charles-Gaston Boissel de Monville (Q111271592) et cela déclenche une contrainte de format. Avant de changer la contrainte (pour (pair-de-france|senateur)(|-[34]eme-republique|-2nd-empire|-communaute)\/[a-z0-9_]* si je ne me trompe pas), est-ce qu'il y a des remarques, commentaires ? Ou bien est-ce que cette propriété n'est pas prévu pour la Chambres des pairs (qui est pourtant l'équivalent du Sénat à trois moments et en tout cas les pairs sont bien répertoriés sur Senat.fr et la contrainte sur position held (P39) autorise bien Pair of France (Q21032621)).

Cdlt, VIGNERON en résidence (talk) 13:13, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

euh... j'aurais tendance à être d'accord avec toi... - c'est sans doute que le cas n'a pas été anticipé lors de la mise en place de la propriété...

l'identifiant existant, sur la même adresse, je ne vois pas de raison de ne pas l'utiliser... Hsarrazin (talk) 13:39, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Pas d’objection non plus. Ayack (talk) 13:46, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

oui, bien sûr ! Les pairs n'étaient a priori pas répertoriés sur le site du Sénat lors de la création de la propriété. Mais puisqu'ils y sont maintenant, c'est logique et on va pouvoir compléter. Merci !--Nono314 (talk) 21:57, 17 March 2022 (UTC)