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Museum of Modern Art artist ID
identifier assigned to an artist by the Museum of Modern Art
Descriptionidentifier assigned to an artist by the Museum of Modern Art in New York
RepresentsMuseum of Modern Art online collection (Q73268604), Museum of Modern Art (Q188740)
Associated itemMuseum of Modern Art (Q188740), Museum of Modern Art (Q188740)
Applicable "stated in" valueMuseum of Modern Art online collection (Q73268604)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domain
According to this template: humans who are artists
According to statements in the property:
person (Q215627), organization (Q43229) or group of humans (Q16334295)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values\d+
ExampleAntonio M. Ruíz (Q602999)5078
Fiona Banner (Q5451020)8033
Sourcehttps://www.moma.org/artists
Formatter URLhttps://www.moma.org/artists/$1
Robot and gadget jobsAlready have backlinks to Wikidata (and Wikipedia). These should be imported. Should be added to Mix'n'Match
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P2174 (Q45311949)
Related to country  United States of America (Q30) (See 463 others)
See alsoMuseum of Modern Art work ID (P2014), ARTIC artist ID (P6295), Museum of Modern Art online exhibition ID (P7778)
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Current uses
Total21,948
Main statement12,83558.5% of uses
Qualifier2<0.1% of uses
Reference9,11141.5% of uses
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Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2174#Unique value, hourly updated report, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value), SPARQL (new)
 
Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Known exceptions: Karl Köpping (Q168340), Diller Scofidio + Renfro (Q3027988)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2174#Single value, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
 
Format “\d+: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2174#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
 
Type “person (Q215627), organization (Q43229), group of humans (Q16334295): element must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “person (Q215627), organization (Q43229), group of humans (Q16334295)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Known exceptions: Congo (Q775697)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2174#type Q215627, Q43229, Q16334295, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2174#Item P6379, search, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
 
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2174#allowed entity types, SPARQL (new)
 
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2174#scope, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Works with creator missing link
List of works that are in collection (P195) Museum of Modern Art (Q188740) or have Museum of Modern Art work ID (P2014) and have creator (P170) set, but that creator doesn't have a P21741 (P21741) link (Help)
Violations query: SELECT DISTINCT ?item ?creator { { ?item wdt:P195 wd:Q188740 } UNION { ?item wdt:P2014 [] } . ?item wdt:P170 ?creator . MINUS { ?creator wdt:P2174 [] } . SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "en" } } ORDER BY ?creatorLabel
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P2174#Works with creator missing link

New entries addedEdit

I added ids as well as artists that has at least one artwork-id from the csv file in Wikidata yesterday. Around 700 new ids were added and 1200 artists. I made a match mistake that resulted in 187 double entries. I hope to restore that soon. --Hannolans (talk) 08:04, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

❗️ Caution: artists with this identifier do *not* automatically have works in the MoMA collectionEdit

I just removed a constraint around this property, which linked it to has works in the collection (P6379). I will also remove all statement that say that someone has works in the collection (P6379) Museum of Modern Art (Q188740): this statement is wrong in many cases and actually needs manual case-by-case verification. Why? MoMA assigns identifiers to artists with works in their collection indeed, but also to artists who don't have works in their collection but who only have participated in exhibitions there.

Listing some examples:

Pinging @Ivan A. Krestinin: whose bot made those edits. I understand the reasoning, but it's in many cases not correct (see explanation above), so I'd like to ask to not batch create these statements anymore in the future.

Cheers, Spinster 💬 09:48, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Ah yes, actually, it is more a person identifier than an artist identifier. In https://github.com/MuseumofModernArt/collection we hava a csv with all the artworks in Moma and the Constituent-id that looks as the MoMA-id. So we can use that as dataset to add 'works in collection', with a link to an artwork as a reference to that claim. --Hannolans (talk) 12:16, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
I'm preparing a bulkupload with 'works of collection' based on and linked to an artwork in the collection. --Hannolans (talk) 20:19, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
The bot of Ivan A. Krestinin is correct. It was me who added the constraint to this property as I wasnt aware this identifier also includes persons and organisations without work at MoMA. It was a quick way to fill the propert 'works in collection'. Probably we should more rely on artwork information instead of 'is in a database of a museum'. --Hannolans (talk) 20:22, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
I re-added the constraint as I already changed that to suggestion constraint (Q62026391) in oktober this year --Hannolans (talk) 20:28, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
I have added works in collection based on a work of the artist in the collection in MoMA with a direct link to that work. --Hannolans (talk) 11:22, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
After some batchuploading we now have all artists in the collection of MoMA in Wikidata. Some artists needs additional checking, they have some ids for 'unknown designer' etc, and some artists don't have a birth date/year. --Hannolans (talk) 21:42, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
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