Property talk:P2283

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Tomastvivlaren in topic items?

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uses
item or concept used by the subject or in the operation (see also instrument [P1303] and armament [P520])
Descriptionsubject makes use of object
Representsuse (Q1724915)
Data typeItem
Domainactions? (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Allowed valuesobjects? (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Examplepainter (Q1028181)paintbrush (Q193897)
paint (Q174219)
Maronite Church (Q64900)Maronite rite (Q3433298)
Internet (Q75)Internet Protocol (Q8795)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P2283 (Q106762852)
See alsodepends on software (P1547), has use (P366), fabrication method (P2079), item operated (P121), describes a project that uses (P4510), has part(s) (P527), has characteristic (P1552), has pattern (P5422)
Lists
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total49,137
Main statement43,14887.8% of uses
Qualifier5,98312.2% of uses
Reference6<0.1% of uses
Search for values
[create Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here]
Contemporaries:
if [item A] has this property (uses (P2283)) linked to [item B],
then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2283#Contemporary, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2283#Entity types
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2283#Scope, SPARQL

Batman in the example edit

I see that Batman uses Batmobile is in the example. I'm not sure that it is consistant with the french description : item used in operation. Batman is not an operation ...

Also I'd like to ask if the property I proposed in this proposal :

   Under discussion
Data typeMISSING
Example 1MISSING
Example 2MISSING
Example 3MISSING

is a duplicate of this one. author  TomT0m / talk page 15:36, 11 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

There is an obvious discrepancy between the English description and French one ("item used by the subject" vs."item used in operation"). You should check the original purpose. The English meaning is far too large, from my point of view. @TomT0m: I'll remove the "Batmobile" example, but I suggest that you add a constraint type=operation or process to clarify the expected scope, and double check the original proposal discussion of this one to ensure it differs from your new proposal. -- LaddΩ chat ;) 15:11, 22 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Uses of uses (P2283) edit

Which is the difference between item operated (P121) and uses (P2283)? --★ → Airon 90 14:06, 15 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

It's a subproperty. I guess one is more the relation beetween a driver and his vehicle who has to be driven, and the other one is more generic. A pencil is a simple tool and is not a machine. author  TomT0m / talk page 14:21, 15 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

items? edit

Current examples:

I would place P121 instead of the question mark, not 2283. BTW, any animal uses its parts or not?

P121 claims items already... I would leave P2283 only for abstract things like traditions and abstract principles. d1g (talk) 13:58, 30 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

No, birds consist of wing (Q1172934).Tomastvivlaren (talk) 15:17, 11 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Removal of the inverse constraint (Q21510855) edit

FYI: Removal of the inverse constraint (Q21510855) has been proposed at Wikidata:Project chat#Concepts used in a process. --Marsupium (talk) 21:06, 8 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Archived at Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2018/05#Concepts_used_in_a_process. Getting rid of the constraint was recommended, so I think I'll do it. I noticed it on toga party (Q1113775) uses (P2283) toga (Q183171), but we can hardly say the main use of toga (Q183171) is toga party (Q1113775). Ghouston (talk) 03:22, 24 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
Well, maybe it's OK to go on toga (Q183171). I had picked has use (P366) instead of used by (P1535). Ghouston (talk) 03:26, 24 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
The constraint had already been deleted, but somebody put it back, so I deleted it again. Ghouston (talk) 03:32, 24 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
That was my bad; I didn't notice the discussion. @Ghouston: Should it be added back with a deprecated rank so others know not to re-add it? I'm not sure if this would break any property constraint gadgets or bots however. – Pizza1016 (talk | contribs) 04:40, 24 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
I'm not sure, I suppose we could try and see what happens? Ghouston (talk) 04:41, 24 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
I tried it, it's turned up again at the top of this talk page, so it's not promising. Ghouston (talk) 04:44, 24 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
Although on items, individual claims aren't getting flagged. Ghouston (talk) 04:56, 24 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
We'll see if the deprecation gets picked up by the database report (once it updates). If it does, then I believe {{Property documentation}} should be updated. In the meantime, I added reason for deprecated rank (P2241). – Pizza1016 (talk | contribs) 12:25, 25 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

Overzealous constraint? edit

See Property_talk:P1535#Overzealous_constraint?. Swpb (talk) 15:51, 24 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

Software or equipment edit

Is this property only for abstract concepts or also for specific equipments (and software, if software engine (P408) is ever not appropriate)? For instance, can I state Wikimedia Blog (Q50558357) uses (P2283) WordPress (Q13166)? Nemo 08:23, 6 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

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