Property talk:P2293

Latest comment: 1 year ago by TiagoLubiana in topic I am afraid of this property

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genetic association
general link between a disease and the causal genetic entity, if the detailed mechanism is unknown/unavailable
Representsgenetic association (Q744727)
Data typeItem
Template parameterWill be used in a new 'disease/genetic association' parameter in the GeneWiki info box.
Domain
According to this template: genes and diseases
According to statements in the property:
gene (Q7187) or disease (Q12136)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed valuesitems with instance of (P31):gene (Q7187) and instance of (P31):disease (Q12136) (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Exampleschizophrenia (Q41112)APOL2 (Q18037645)
APOL2 (Q18037645)schizophrenia (Q41112)
Sourcehttp://www.chibi.ubc.ca/Gemma/neurocartaStatistics.html
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Robot and gadget jobsPBB disease bot will work with this property
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P2293 (Q113557566)
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Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total14,646
Main statement14,644>99.9% of uses
Qualifier2<0.1% of uses
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Type “gene (Q7187), disease (Q12136): item must contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)” with classes “gene (Q7187), disease (Q12136)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2293#Type Q7187, Q12136, SPARQL
Symmetric property: if [item A] has this property linked to [item B], then [item B] should also have this property linked to [item A]. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2293#Symmetric, SPARQL
Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2293#Scope, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Citation needed: the property must have at least one reference (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2293#citation needed

I am afraid of this property edit

I am somewhat afraid of this property: Loads of genetic associations studies are found not to reproduce, - at least in personality genetics I know a little about. I can already see that a doubtful association has been suggested as a Wikidata property example (P1855) for the property. When I search szgene.org I can find no proper association. A single study is listed Association of SNPs and haplotypes in APOL1, 2 and 4 with schizophrenia "Although our study is not definitive...". PubMed shows only two papers on the APOL2-schizophrenia combination http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=APOL2+AND+schizophrenia Solid meta-analyses are required. Looking at http://www.genecards.org/cgi-bin/carddisp.pl?gene=APOL2 its seems that Gene Card is out of its wits. Where on earth does "Diseases associated with APOL2 include schizophrenia" comes from? Citation needed! — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 17:35, 16 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

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@Sebotic: Can anybody answer the question Fnielsen asks? Mbch331 (talk) 17:41, 16 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
Note that I am not saying that the Wikidata property (Q18616576) should be removed. It does have merit, example (Q14944328): APOE (Q14890468) and Alzheimer's disease (Q11081) are obvious with AlzGene now showing an odds ratio (Q1862216) on 3.68. I am just afraid that the genetic association (P2293) can be used indiscriminately. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 12:23, 19 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
LOL, I just came here to warn about usage of this property. I would agree with removal. Speaking as long-time reactome.org biocurator. --SCIdude (talk) 09:31, 12 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Change name and definition to broaden scope and clarify edit

Maybe we could improve this property to:

If there are no objections, I'll change the descriptors to:

  • Label (en) : reported genetic association
  • Description (en) : a reported causal link between a phenotype and genetic entity. Reported links considered false by more robust studies should be moved to the deprecated rank.

Note that the change will not require removal of any current statements.

Thoughts are very welcome! @Fnielsen, SCIdude, Sebotic, Gtsulab, juleong, Emitraka: TiagoLubiana (talk) 13:45, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

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