Property talk:P2333

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Bergenga in topic Address as required statement

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Norwegian organisation number
organisation's purely numerical identifier in the Norwegian Register for Legal Entities, issued by the Brønnøysund Register Centre
Associated itemBrønnøysund Register Centre (Q1770101)
Applicable "stated in" valueunknown
Data typeExternal identifier
Domain
According to this template: organisation
According to statements in the property:
organization (Q43229)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values(\d{9}|\d{3} \d{3} \d{3})
Usage notes9 digits only. (No spaces!)
ExampleWikimedia Norge (Q6985258)993101583
Vy (Q83825)984661177
Norwegian Red Cross (Q927391)864139442
Source
According to this template: external reference
According to statements in the property:
https://www.brreg.no/
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Formatter URLhttps://w2.brreg.no/enhet/sok/detalj.jsp?orgnr=$1
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P2333 (Q53729795)
Related to country  Norway (Q20) (See 97 others)
See alsoFirmenbuchnummer (P5285), OpenCorporates ID (P1320)
Lists
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total13,153
Main statement7,777 out of 1,780,106 (0% complete)59.1% of uses
Qualifier3<0.1% of uses
Reference5,37340.8% of uses
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Format “\d{9}: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2333#Format, SPARQL
Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2333#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)
Single best value: this property generally contains a single value. If there are several, one would have preferred rank (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2333#single best value, SPARQL
Type “organization (Q43229): item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “organization (Q43229)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2333#Type Q43229, SPARQL
Item “country (P17): Norway (Q20): Items with this property should also have “country (P17): Norway (Q20)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2333#Item P17, search, SPARQL
Item “inception (P571): Items with this property should also have “inception (P571)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2333#Item P571, SPARQL
Item “legal form (P1454): Items with this property should also have “legal form (P1454)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2333#Item P1454, search, SPARQL
Item “headquarters location (P159): Items with this property should also have “headquarters location (P159)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2333#Item P159, search, SPARQL
Format “\d{3}.+: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2333#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2333#Scope, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2333#Entity types
Label required in languages: nb: Entities using this property should have labels in one of the following languages: nb (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2333#Label in 'nb' language, search, SPARQL
Label required in languages: nn: Entities using this property should have labels in one of the following languages: nn (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2333#Label in 'nn' language, search, SPARQL
Item “OpenCorporates ID (P1320): Items with this property should also have “OpenCorporates ID (P1320)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2333#Item P1320, search, SPARQL
 
Validate norwegian organization numbers
Report organizations with incorrect organization numbers, found by validating the checksum (Help)
Violations query: SELECT ?item #?itemLabel ?orgnr ?checksum ?checksum2 ?checksum3 ?quot ?rem WITH { SELECT DISTINCT * WHERE { ?item wdt:P2333 ?orgnr . FILTER(strlen(?orgnr) = 9) BIND(xsd:integer(substr(?orgnr, 1, 1))*3 + xsd:integer(substr(?orgnr, 2, 1))*2 + xsd:integer(substr(?orgnr, 3, 1))*7 + xsd:integer(substr(?orgnr, 4, 1))*6 + xsd:integer(substr(?orgnr, 5, 1))*5 + xsd:integer(substr(?orgnr, 6, 1))*4 + xsd:integer(substr(?orgnr, 7, 1))*3 + xsd:integer(substr(?orgnr, 8, 1))*2 AS ?checksum) #BIND(floor(?checksum/11) AS ?quot) #BIND(?checksum - 11*?quot AS ?rem) BIND(11 - ?checksum + 11*floor(?checksum/11) AS ?checksum2) BIND(IF(?checksum2 = 11, "0", IF(?checksum2 = 10, "-", STR(?checksum2))) AS ?checksum3) FILTER(?checksum2 = 10 || substr(?orgnr, 9, 1) != ?checksum3) } #LIMIT 1000 } AS %i WHERE { INCLUDE %i SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en" . } }
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P2333#Validate norwegian organization numbers
  Pattern ^(\d{3}) (\d{3}) (\d{3})$ will be automatically replaced to \1\2\3.
Testing: TODO list

applicable 'stated in' value (P9073) value edit

If several are possible, I don't think this can easily be captured with the property. I currently set "unknown" to prefer. What is the relation between the two other values? BTW for ISBN I added "no value", as ISBN alone in the reference of a statement doesn't point to any centralized database. --- Jura 13:23, 22 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

When referencing current data, which applies to most of the references, Norwegian Central Coordinating Register for Legal Entities (Q5380556) is where the information is found. But for references to something that changed, like the date of a new official name or a legal type, the information is found in Norwegian Register of Business Enterprises (Q17773282). In cases where the information relates to an old company where the company entity has been reused for a totally different company (which is why we have several false positives on the distinct values constraint), all information is found in Norwegian Register of Business Enterprises (Q17773282). (Between 1988 and 1995, all information was found in Norwegian Register of Business Enterprises (Q17773282), but we didn't read the information back then, so that's irrelevant in this case.) Some information is also found in some external databases where the Norwegian organization number (Q11994066) is mentioned, but one usually have to look it up through the name.
I guess the way you changed P9073 on this looks okay. It is kind of self-explanatory, and suggests that the user has to be aware that the ID is actually used by more than one single database. (Yet, it is not an "ownerless" identifier, like ISBN or vehicle identification number (P6322).) Bergenga (talk) 17:43, 22 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
If everything is in Norwegian Register of Business Enterprises (Q17773282), maybe that should be the default. --- Jura 12:01, 23 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
Sorry for late answer. I've been off from Wiki for a while.
No, I guess I was a bit unclear, but Norwegian Register of Business Enterprises (Q17773282) does not contain everything. It is a registry only for buisnesses/enterprises, while Norwegian Central Coordinating Register for Legal Entities (Q5380556) is for all types of organizations. We don't get historical information for assocations, foundations, government organizations, etc.. If a foundation changes its name, we will not see a record of when it happened.
On 1 January 2021, the registry included 350 000 limited companies, 420 000 sole proprietorships and around 35 000 other types of buisnesses. It also included 110 000 voluntary associations (sports clubs, advocacy groups, political parties, religious organizations, etc.), 6000 foundations, 9000 housing cooperatives, 23000 condos, around 1800 government organizations and some thousand other entities of different types. It also has more than 600 000 sub-entities. (All organizations that have employees need to have at least one sub-entity. They also use Norwegian organization number (Q11994066) as identifier.)
If only businesses were relevant for Wikidata, it wouldn't be a problem, but that's definitely not the case. Bergenga (talk) 17:24, 24 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Address as required statement edit

This identifier requires the data objects for which it is used as a value to have a statement street address (P6375).... This constraint is marked as suggestion constraint (Q62026391). I am in favor of removing this constraint because I believe an organization should not use the property street address (P6375) as a value, only as a qualifier for the property headquarters location (P159). --Gymnicus (talk) 10:00, 9 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

I agree, so I just removed it. However, the property should be kept on item level for elements that don't just represent an organization, like for example a school, that also has a building that is inevitably connected to it. Bergenga (talk) 11:14, 11 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
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