Property talk:P2341
Documentation
place or ethnic group where a language, art genre, cultural tradition or expression, cooking style or food, or biological species or variety is found (or was originally found)
Represents | Indigenous people (Q103817) | ||||||||||||
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Data type | Item | ||||||||||||
Domain | According to this template:
languages, dialects, folk dances, cooking styles, other cultural expressions
According to statements in the property:
When possible, data should only be stored as statementslanguoid (Q17376908), traditional costume (Q3172759), clothing (Q11460), textile (Q28823), traditional story (Q7832362), mythical entity (Q24334685), folklore character (Q25810847), traditional folk song (Q943929), music tradition (Q60733114), traditional medicine (Q771035), hand tool (Q2578402), legendary figure (Q13002315), custom (Q251777), musical style (Q11921029), dance (Q11639), style (Q1292119), ethnic minority group (Q2531956), traditional melody (Q105575966), genre (Q483394), culture (Q11042), game (Q11410), sport (Q349), type of musical ensemble/group (Q105756498), food (Q2095), cuisine (Q1778821), musical instrument (Q34379), raga (Q216926), craft (Q2207288), art style (Q1792644), sexual identity (Q1165905), gender identity (Q48264), sexual minority (Q589656), tradition (Q82821), species (Q7432), subspecies (Q68947), genus (Q34740), taxon (Q16521), calendar (Q12132), folklore motif (Q2995443), organisms known by a particular common name (Q55983715), event (Q1656682), industry (Q268592), human whose existence is disputed (Q21070568), fictional human (Q15632617), heritage (Q2434238) or ethnic group (Q41710) | ||||||||||||
Allowed values | administrative geographical areas, geographical features, ethnic groups. (note: this should be moved to the property statements) | ||||||||||||
Example | dandiya raas (Q3629880) → Gujarat (Q1061) Kyrgyz people (Q484479) → Central Asia (Q27275) sushi (Q46383) → Japan (Q17) Basque (Q8752) → Basque Country (Q47588) Light brown apple moth (Q3055778) → Australia (Q408) | ||||||||||||
Source | external reference, Wikipedia article (note: this information should be moved to a property statement; use property source website for the property (P1896)) | ||||||||||||
Tracking: same | no label (Q42533340) | ||||||||||||
See also | culture (P2596), country of origin (P495) | ||||||||||||
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Proposal discussion | Proposal discussion | ||||||||||||
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List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2341#Entity types
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2341#Scope, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2341#Type Q17376908, Q3172759, Q11460, Q28823, Q7832362, Q24334685, Q25810847, Q943929, Q60733114, Q771035, Q2578402, Q13002315, Q251777, Q11921029, Q11639, Q1292119, Q2531956, Q105575966, Q483394, Q11042, Q11410, Q349, Q105756498, Q2095, Q1778821, Q34379, Q216926, Q2207288, Q1792644, Q1165905, Q48264, Q589656, Q82821, Q7432, Q68947, Q34740, Q16521, Q12132, Q2995443, Q55983715, Q1656682, Q268592, Q21070568, Q15632617, Q2434238, Q41710, SPARQL
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2341#Value type Q56061, Q2472587, Q851990, Q3502482, Q41710, Q82794, Q33829, Q6266, Q1402592, SPARQL
Adding clothing, folk costume edit
@Nikki, Popcorndude, Kaldari, Mbch331, Jane023, Spinster: I'd like to add instances or subclasses of clothing (Q11460) (individual garments) and traditional costume (Q3172759) as acceptable Types for indigenous to (P2341). Examples would be:
- nutukas (Q5405512) <indigenous to> Sámi peoples (Q48199)
- mukluk (Q2636268) <indigenous to> Inuit (Q189975)
- folk costume of the North Frisian Islands (Q20547) <indigenous to> North Frisian Islands (Q27937)
What do you think? - PKM (talk) 22:12, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
- Since there were no objections, I have added these type constraints. - PKM (talk) 00:18, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
Adding textile edit
I am adding textile as a valid class for this property. Example: Milesian wool (Q3826614) <indigenous to> Miletus (Q169460). - PKM (talk) 21:41, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
Adding "historical region" edit
Does anyone object to adding <instance of> historical region (Q1620908) as a valid value for this property? - PKM (talk)
Food and species edit
Hello, @Dhx1: I was wondering why were food and species was deleted in late April and late June 2021? RXerself (talk) 08:57, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
- @RXerself: Sorry I can't remember why some of those edits were even done... it reads now as if all the qualifiers were deleted, then added back again in the same change, but with a few items missing. indigenous to (P2341), country of origin (P495), cuisine (P2012) and culture (P2596) are all very similar to each other but are badly defined and they're open to different interpretations and uses. I think I was trying to add constraints to make sense of these properties, but didn't progress far before getting stuck. --Dhx1 (talk) 14:38, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hmm yeah, I can see where people might confuse those properties. It looks like for now, culture (P2596) and cuisine (P2012) cannot be used for food though. I was thinking of using this property on items about dishes from rather less-documented ethnic groups who don't necessarily have items or Wikipedia articles about their cuisine. I know I can create one, but I'd prefer to link the dish directly to the ethnic group. As with country of origin (P495), I think we can apply something similar like located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) v. country (P17) where we only use the most detailed administrative unit and/or ethnicity as a value for indigenous to (P2341)/located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) while country of origin (P495)/country (P17) is used for general query purposes. RXerself (talk) 05:23, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
New items art style, craft edit
I'd like to add art style (Q1792644) and craft (Q2207288) as valid items for this property. Any objections? - PKM (talk) 01:26, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
- Added since there were no objections. - PKM (talk) 22:16, 22 December 2021 (UTC)