Property talk:P355

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Tacsipacsi in topic Parent organization versus part of

Documentation

has subsidiary
subsidiary of a company or organization; generally a fully owned separate corporation. Compare with "business division" (P199). Opposite of parent organization (P749).
DescriptionSubsidiaries of a company. Opposite of parent organization (P749).
Representssubsidiary (Q658255)
Data typeItem
Domain
According to this template: organisations, specifically company (Q783794)
According to statements in the property:
organization (Q43229), fictional organization (Q14623646), project (Q170584) or corporation (Q167037)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed valuesorganisations, specifically company (Q783794) (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
ExampleThe Walt Disney Company (Q7414)Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures (Q1323594)
Walt Disney Animation Studios (Q1047410)
Microsoft (Q2283)Skype Technologies (Q246125)
Toons Mag (Q64692267)Periodical (Q67520005)
Tracking: sameno label (Q42533285)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P355 (Q23909080)
See alsobusiness division (P199), has part(s) (P527), owner of (P1830), next lower rank (P3729), has part(s) of the class (P2670)
Lists
Proposal discussion[not applicable Proposal discussion]
Current uses
Total105,079
Main statement105,001>99.9% of uses
Qualifier76<0.1% of uses
Reference2<0.1% of uses
Search for values
[create Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here]
Value type “organization (Q43229), fictional organization (Q14623646), project (Q170584), facility (Q13226383): This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value organization (Q43229), fictional organization (Q14623646), project (Q170584), facility (Q13226383) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P355#Value type Q43229, Q14623646, Q170584, Q13226383, SPARQL
Inverse property of “parent organization (P749):
if [item A] has this property (has subsidiary (P355)) linked to [item B],
then [item B] should also have property “parent organization (P749)” linked to [item A]. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P355#inverse, SPARQL
Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P355#Scope, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P355#Entity types
Contemporaries:
if [item A] has this property (has subsidiary (P355)) linked to [item B],
then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P355#Contemporary, SPARQL
 
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Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Possible rename edit

I suggest we change has subsidiary (P355) which does not seem grammatically correct and is therefore confusing, if I add the property has subsidiary (P355) it appears that the parent item is a subsidiary of the items listed in that property, I'd recommend we change the label to "subsidiaries," "subsidiary entities," or "Parent company of" with the aka, "subsidiaries"
  Done Jared Zimmerman (talk) 22:49, 12 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Usage edit

Title ID Data type Description Examples Inverse
has subsidiaryP355Itemsubsidiary: subsidiaries of a company[[d:The Walt Disney Company|The Walt Disney Company]] <has subsidiary> [[d:Walt Disney Pictures>
<Walt Disney Animation Studios>
<Walt Disney Theatrical>
<Pixar Animation Studios>
<Marvel Entertainment>
<Lucasfilm Ltd. LLC>
<The Muppets Holding Company>
<others|Walt Disney Pictures>
<Walt Disney Animation Studios>
<Walt Disney Theatrical>
<Pixar Animation Studios>
<Marvel Entertainment>
<Lucasfilm Ltd. LLC>
<The Muppets Holding Company>
<others]]
parent organization


The inverse property exists, parent organization (P749) but it doesn't have the actual inverse property logic associating them together, or the script to check for violations.
Jared Zimmerman (talk) 23:01, 12 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

The description does not fit the property (in English) and the inverse property is needed as well edit

Given that some organisations like "the art institute" have many subsidiaries, it makes sense to be able to indicate "subsidiary of".

The current text describes exactly this but uses it where it is actually a list. Thanks, GerardM (talk) 12:04, 12 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Type: company (Q783794) or business (Q4830453)? edit

I notice that Whirlpool Corporation (Q1471346) has conflicts involving this property because the subsidiaries are not instances of company (Q783794) but business (Q4830453). Should business (Q4830453) be a subclass of company (Q783794)? Or the converse, and we should therefore change this constraint? I am not familiar enough with companies to understand the difference between the two notions. − Pintoch (talk) 18:30, 8 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

  Notified participants of WikiProject Companies

I have just set business (Q4830453) to be a subclass of company (Q783794). Feel free to change if you see a better solution! − Pintoch (talk) 20:03, 18 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

Rename to better support other kinds of organizations edit

From "subsidiary" to "parent organization of" edit

In 2013, there was a suggestion to change the English label from "subsidiary" to better reflect the inverse relationship (at the time, "parent company of").

In 2017, to support the use of the property for organizations that are not commercial companies, the inverse property parent organization (P749) was revised to have a type constraint of organization (Q43229), matching the broadening of its English label from "parent company" to "parent organization" (https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Property%3AP749&type=revision&diff=1042066557&oldid=514976974).

I propose that we reflect the same broadening for this, its inverse property, to use "parent organization of"; this label also parallels others such as instance of (P31), subclass of (P279), part of (P361), member of (P463), facet of (P1269), and subproperty of (P1647). Dan scott (talk) 00:46, 8 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

Parent organization versus part of edit

I started a discussion about the relation between this property and has part(s) (P527) at Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2021/01#Parent organization versus part of, please comment there. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 23:00, 19 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

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