Property talk:P396

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SBN author ID
identifier issued by National Library Service (SBN) of Italy
RepresentsOPAC SBN (Q105086090)
Associated itemIstituto Centrale per il Catalogo Unico (Q3803707)
Applicable "stated in" valueOPAC SBN (Q105086090)
Has qualityVIAF component (Q26921380)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5), organization (Q43229), pseudepigraph (Q827597), pseudonym (Q61002) or group of humans (Q16334295)
Allowed valuesIT\\ICCU\\(\d{10}|\D\D[\D\d]\D\\\d{6})
ExamplePetrarch (Q1401)IT\ICCU\CFIV\017574
Galileo Galilei (Q307)IT\ICCU\CFIV\004372
Formatter URL$1
Tracking: usageCategory:Wikipedia articles with ICCU identifiers (Q18174792)
Related to country  Italy (Q38) (See 154 others)
See alsoSBN books ID (P5485)
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Main statement38,18985.9% of uses
Qualifier4<0.1% of uses
Reference6,24014% of uses
Search for values
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Format “IT\\ICCU\\(\d{10}|\D\D[\D\d]\D\\\d{6}): value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P396#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P396#Unique value, hourly updated report, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value), SPARQL (new)
Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Known exceptions: Ottavio Beltrano (Q3887200), Bernardino Beccari (Q26268333)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P396#Single value, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P396#allowed entity types, SPARQL (new)
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P396#scope, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)

Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

4 formatsEdit

What is the format for this?

I just changed the sample at Wikidata:List_of_properties#Authority_control from "002049" to "CFIV\002049".

Re-reading the above sample from the initial proposal, it seems it should be "IT\ICCU\CFIV\002049". However, the "IT\ICCU\" part seems to define the property that follows.

The only use on an item I had found doesn't include the slash (Q3108024: "CFIV067552") --  Docu  at 07:10, 25 April 2013 (UTC), edited 07:38, 25 April 2013 (UTC), edited 11:31, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

It should be IT\ICCU\CFIV\000000. This is the original form. I don't think there are so many usage of this property, so it should be easy to correct all of them to this form. (see below) --Sannita - not just another sysop 12:57, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Link somewhere?Edit

It would be nice if this could link somewhere, e.g. ?

The corresponding addition could be requested at MediaWiki talk:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js. --  Docu  at 07:14, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it would be lovely, but there's a problem: the original link at is huge - and by huge I mean at least five or six rows, no kidding. I'm trying to work a solution about that, but I've got literally no time until May 2. --Sannita - not just another sysop 12:57, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

As far as I know, there is no useful link. What makes it even worse, there are two IDs. Take for example Michelangelo:

  • Identificativo SBN: IT\ICCU\CFIV\017291
  • Identificativo internazionale: IT\ICCU\0000077060

Both numbers are not in VIAF. The SBN uses the link:


xxx = Identificativo SBN ("017291"). --Kolja21 (talk) 18:42, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

A slightly shorter version could be:\ICCU\CFIV\017291
We would still need to resolve the format question. --  Docu  at 10:45, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi, the shorter version I've found is\ICCU\CFIV\017291&searchForm=opac%2Ficcu%2Fauthority.jsp&do_cmd=search_show_cmd&nentries=1&fname=none&from=1
where the identifier appear after Codice_Auth=. Previous versions of the URL you provided were search inside title's catalog, not authority. --Borgopio (talk) 13:26, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Actually RicordiSamoa bought which can be used to shorten the link. I already asked him for a minor fix (since the link works only with the numbers, while the right code is "IT\ICCU\xxxV\123456"), but it's ready and can be used in the .js, I think. Sannita - not just another sysop 10:57, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Actually Ricordisamoa didn't buy anything (.tk domains are free); and yes, the fix will arrive soon. --Ricordisamoa 11:12, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
However, the hosting plan is free too, and I'm concerned about the traffic limits...   --Ricordisamoa 11:15, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Sannita asked me on my talk page to help implement this. As stated above, it would just need to be requested on the talk page of MediaWiki talk:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js.
Personally, I don't think the length of the URL is a problem. We just need to be sure about the format of the string we will use.
Using a third party redirect may be an issue as it might not comply with WikiMedia's privacy policy or at least with similar ones, e.g. on toolserver. --  Docu  at 05:19, 11 May 2013 (UTC)


I've changed the target URL.[1] It was reported that some items are not reachable via the previous URL, but they are with this. Example: [2]. --Nemo 07:31, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

@Nemo_bis: Non concordo sulla proposta di modificare la URL connessa all'identificativo del record di autorità facendola puntare a una lista di record bibliografici dell'autore X anziché, come adesso, al record di autorità dell'autore X. Nelle diverse Wikipedia, i vari identificativi dei record di autorità che appaiono all'interno del box Controllo di autorità puntano sempre al record di autorità a cui fa riferimento l'identificativo. Cioè puntano alla sezione di un opac che contiene i records di autorità e non a una lista di opere di X. È anche una questione di coerenza: 1) con l'etichetta di quel box: si chiama Controllo di autorità e non Lista di libri di; 2) l'identificativo in chiaro se è, come è sempre, un hyperlink, ha senso che se cliccato porti alla pagina che mostra ciò a cui si riferisce il codice dell'identificativo e non a una pagina che ha un contenuto completamente diverso. Il fatto di far collegare l'identificativo del record di autorità alla pagina web del record e non a una lista di opere, è una decisione presa tra 2012 e 2013 e ormai consolidata tra tutte le Wikipedia. Qualora la sola Wikipedia italiana adottasse la tua proposta, sarebbe l'unico caso. Infine l'obiettivo che ti poni, offrire al lettore della voce di Wikipedia un link immediato a una lista di opere "di" in un opac è già realizzato nella Wikipedia inglese con la soluzione di John Ockerbloom adottata dalla Wikipedia inglese: un template che consente di aggiungere alle voci biografiche di Wikipedia un box con dei link per fare ricerche negli opac di biblioteca e ottenere 2 tipi diversi di liste: opere "di" e opere "su" (vedi il post sul suo blog: John Ockerbloom, “From Wikipedia to our libraries”, in Everybody’s Libraries, 4 marzo 2013 Per un esempio vedi la voce di Jane Austen: che verso il fondo, vicino al margine destro, contiene il box: “Library resources box”. Considerati anche i tre vantaggi che ha l'uso di quel box: 1) la sua maggiore visibilità rispetto al link nel box Controllo di autorità; 2) il fatto che contiene una etichetta esplicativa chiara; 3) il fatto che consente ai lettori di selezionare in una schermata intermedia quale catalogo interrogare, io propenderei per l'adozione di quella soluzione. Volendo, potrebbe anche essere adattata in maniera semplificata al contesto italiano: basterebbe che contenga il link alla lista delle opere "di" con l'uso della URL che hai proposto tu e che punta al catalogo SBN.--Pierfranco Minsenti 12:08, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
RB to the AC code SBN redirecting service. URL used by Nemo links to the bibliographical records, NOT to the AC record.
Sorry for my boldness, but I have rollbacked the change according to Piefranco findings. The link shall be relevant to the Authority control record, and not to the related bibliographical record. --Accurimbono (talk) 15:12, 20 March 2015 (UTC)


I added that, based on

Ricerca: Nomi = SBNV035264 

but link does not work. 21:11, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

It means that that particular code has been removed, probably because it was merged with another code. --Sannita - not just another sysop 17:48, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Property for SBN edition IDEdit

@Sannita: Qui urge una nuova proprietà dedicata alle edizioni, ci sono decine di item nel report... Che ne pensi? --Accurimbono (talk) 12:35, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

@Accurimbono: Non capisco perché non mi ha segnalato questa discussione Sì, ci ho già pensato pure io. Me ne occupo con l'utenza di lavoro più tardi. --Sannita - not just another sysop 18:50, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
@Sannita: Ottimo!
PS: In che senso "non mi hai segnalato"? Pensavo che il ping fosse sufficiente. --Accurimbono (talk) 08:52, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
@Sannita (ICCU):, forse intendevi che ti avrei dovuto pingare a quest'altro account? Vabbè, cmq non era una cosa urgentissima. Ciao e grazie di nuovo, --Accurimbono (talk) 08:56, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Format question on frwikiEdit

Jihaim on frwiki (fr:Wikipédia:Le_Bistro/2_novembre_2018#ICCU) is trying to put the ICCN number of someone ( Adelaide Orsola Appignani (Q4681752) ) and failing because of a constraint format (he tries « RMLV045206 »). What’s wrong with this ? @Aubrey: who proposed the constraint for the format initially. author  TomT0m / talk page 18:47, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Answer on Le Bistro de frwiki --Eihel (talk) 21:56, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
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