Property talk:P4291

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Ainali in topic What does "panorama" mean?

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Representspanorama (Q41363)
Data typeCommons media file
Domainany (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Allowed values
According to this template: Commons media with corresponding images
According to statements in the property:
(?i).+\.(jpg|jpeg|jpe|png|tif|tiff|webp)|
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Usage notes本欄位填入維基檔案連結,用於連結該項的環景攝影檔案
ExampleFörkärla Church (Q10501350)Förkärla kyrka 20160421 06.jpg
Sågdammen public beach (Q106862513)Sågdammens badplats 3.jpg
Formatter URLhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:$1
Embed URLhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:$1
See alsospherical panorama image (P4640), ground level 360 degree view URL (P5282), view (P8517)
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Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total4,180
Main statement4,17399.8% of uses
Qualifier70.2% of uses
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Link to Commons namespace “File”: this property should contain a well-formed link to an existing page on Wikimedia Commons. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4291#Commons link, hourly updated report
Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4291#Scope, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Format “(?i).+\.(jpg|jpeg|jpe|png|tif|tiff|webp)|: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4291#Format, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4291#Entity types
 

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360 images edit

Should 360 images have a qualifier to distinguish it from "regular" panoramic images? Or should it even have a separate property? I imagine that with the rise of virtual reality headset (Q22980233) it will be a sought after property soon. Ainali (talk) 10:06, 9 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

would field of view (P4036) work as a qualifier in this case? ArthurPSmith (talk) 13:31, 9 October 2017 (UTC)Reply
I don't think so. Even if you set it to 360 degree (Q28390) it is not clear if it is a full spherical image or one that is capped at "the poles". Ainali (talk) 11:17, 10 October 2017 (UTC)Reply
Can't this be formatted so that it goes directly into the viewer? Otherwise it might just seem a variation of P18. Also, where are you in that pic? Behind the tree? Jane023 (talk) 07:54, 14 October 2017 (UTC)Reply
It probably could. I did so in sv:Mall:360-bild. The example image is actually a "photo sphere", ie. a stitched photo directly from my mobile, so I am in the center of the sphere the whole time. Ainali (talk) 09:24, 14 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

I think that PhotoSphere -EsferoFoto- is the most appropiate name and definition for the equirectangular image that cover 360º panorama and +90º / -90º, cenit and nadir, poles, vision. Probably, equirectangular have to remain for the maps because PhotoSphere is not a projection from a sphere, like Earth, over planar. Also, this image needs document his xmp PhotoSphere metadata. Finally, I think this images need a qualifier to distinguish it from "regular" panoramic images. --Galopax (talk) 11:32, 26 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Galopax: Thanks for your opinion. Do you also think it is better to just use a qualifier for photospheres (however we will do that) rather than creating a new property that only handles photospheres? Ainali (talk) 13:50, 26 October 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Ainali:, I think that is better creating a new property that only handles photospheres, maybe reading xmp PhoSphere metadata file (https://developers.google.com/streetview/spherical-metadata). This resource or technology can be adapted to Wikimedia Commons and/or Wikidata. --Galopax (talk) 10:13, 27 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Galopax, ArthurPSmith, Jane023: I have created a proposal for a photosphere property. Ainali (talk) 23:50, 2 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

What does "panorama" mean? edit

Do we mean "panorama" generically as landscape/cityscape or just as panorama (Q41363)? --Horcrux (talk) 08:48, 19 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

We simply mean panorama (Q41363). Ainali (talk) 14:26, 19 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Ainali: Thank you. So which property could be use for landscapes/cityscapes?
For instance, say I want to set c:File:Camerano-vista.jpg as cityscape for Camerano (Q123632). I can't use aerial view (P8592) because the picture is not taken from the sky; I can't use panoramic view (P4291) because it is not a panorama (Q41363); I can't use view (P8517) because Camerano (Q123632) is not the picture's point of view.
--Horcrux (talk) 10:35, 31 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
For that I would just use image (P18). We don't have a specific property (yet) for cityscapes. Ainali (talk) 12:02, 31 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
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