Property talk:P4291

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Representspanorama (Q41363)
Data typeCommons media file
Domainany (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Allowed valuesCommons media with corresponding images (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Usage notes本欄位填入維基檔案連結,用於連結該項的環景攝影檔案
ExampleFörkärla Church (Q10501350)Förkärla kyrka 20160421 06.jpg
Formatter URL$1
Embed URL$1
See alsophotosphere image (P4640), ground level 360 degree view (P5282), view (P8517)
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Main statement1,267>99.9% of uses
Qualifier1<0.1% of uses
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Link to Commons namespace “File”: this property should contain a well-formed link to an existing page on Wikimedia Commons. (Help)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P4291#Commons link, hourly updated report, SPARQL (new)
Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
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360 imagesEdit

Should 360 images have a qualifier to distinguish it from "regular" panoramic images? Or should it even have a separate property? I imagine that with the rise of virtual reality headset (Q22980233) it will be a sought after property soon. Ainali (talk) 10:06, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

would field of view (P4036) work as a qualifier in this case? ArthurPSmith (talk) 13:31, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
I don't think so. Even if you set it to 360 degree (Q28390) it is not clear if it is a full spherical image or one that is capped at "the poles". Ainali (talk) 11:17, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
Can't this be formatted so that it goes directly into the viewer? Otherwise it might just seem a variation of P18. Also, where are you in that pic? Behind the tree? Jane023 (talk) 07:54, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
It probably could. I did so in sv:Mall:360-bild. The example image is actually a "photo sphere", ie. a stitched photo directly from my mobile, so I am in the center of the sphere the whole time. Ainali (talk) 09:24, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

I think that PhotoSphere -EsferoFoto- is the most appropiate name and definition for the equirectangular image that cover 360º panorama and +90º / -90º, cenit and nadir, poles, vision. Probably, equirectangular have to remain for the maps because PhotoSphere is not a projection from a sphere, like Earth, over planar. Also, this image needs document his xmp PhotoSphere metadata. Finally, I think this images need a qualifier to distinguish it from "regular" panoramic images. --Galopax (talk) 11:32, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

@Galopax: Thanks for your opinion. Do you also think it is better to just use a qualifier for photospheres (however we will do that) rather than creating a new property that only handles photospheres? Ainali (talk) 13:50, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
@Ainali:, I think that is better creating a new property that only handles photospheres, maybe reading xmp PhoSphere metadata file ( This resource or technology can be adapted to Wikimedia Commons and/or Wikidata. --Galopax (talk) 10:13, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

@Galopax, ArthurPSmith, Jane023: I have created a proposal for a photosphere property. Ainali (talk) 23:50, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

What does "panorama" mean?Edit

Do we mean "panorama" generically as landscape/cityscape or just as panorama (Q41363)? --Horcrux (talk) 08:48, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

We simply mean panorama (Q41363). Ainali (talk) 14:26, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
@Ainali: Thank you. So which property could be use for landscapes/cityscapes?
For instance, say I want to set c:File:Camerano-vista.jpg as cityscape for Camerano (Q123632). I can't use aerial view (P8592) because the picture is not taken from the sky; I can't use panoramic view (P4291) because it is not a panorama (Q41363); I can't use view (P8517) because Camerano (Q123632) is not the picture's point of view.
--Horcrux (talk) 10:35, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
For that I would just use image (P18). We don't have a specific property (yet) for cityscapes. Ainali (talk) 12:02, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
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