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recorded at studio or venue
studio or location where a musical composition/release was recorded

Description	the studio where a song/album was recorded
Represents	recording studio (Q746369), recording session (Q98216532)
Data type	Item
Template parameter	en:template:Infobox single / en:template:Infobox song / en:template:Infobox album recorded
Domain	According to this template: items about recordings (mostly songs and albums) According to statements in the property: musical work (Q2188189), audio track (Q7302866), release group (Q108346082), musical performance (Q6942562), podcast episode (Q61855877) or podcast (Q24634210) When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values	the name of the studio, regardless if the studio has, or not, a WP article (most studios are not notable) (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Example	On the Floor (Q169453) → Henson Recording Studios (Q5731425) Cove Studios (Q12554879) Pet Sounds (Q212863) → United Western Recorders (Q7893650) CBS Columbia Square (Q5009236) Sunset Sound Recorders (Q3304002) Gold Star Studios (Q1534625)
Source	The list of studios can be found on the recording's booklet, or the artist's website. This information usually appears on the infobox of WP articles about the recording (note: this information should be moved to a property statement; use property source website for the property (P1896))
See also	recording location (P8546), filming location (P915), recording date (P10135)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties By value of property Most statements Fewest statements Most sitelinks Most linked wikis Total of sitelinks on items Most identifiers Fewest identifiers Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Database reports/Constraint violations/P483 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 7,709 Main statement 7,439 96.5% of uses Qualifier 245 3.2% of uses Reference 25 0.3% of uses
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Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P483#Entity types

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P483#Scope, SPARQL

Contemporaries:
if [item A] has this property (recorded at studio or venue (P483)) linked to [item B],
then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P483#Contemporary, SPARQL

Type “musical work (Q2188189), audio track (Q7302866), release group (Q108346082), musical performance (Q6942562), podcast episode (Q61855877), podcast (Q24634210)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “musical work (Q2188189), audio track (Q7302866), release group (Q108346082), musical performance (Q6942562), podcast episode (Q61855877), podcast (Q24634210)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P483#Type Q2188189, Q7302866, Q108346082, Q6942562, Q61855877, Q24634210, SPARQL

Property “instance of (P31)” declared by target items of “recorded at studio or venue (P483)”: If [item A] has this property with value [item B], [item B] is required to have property “instance of (P31)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P483#Target required claim P31, SPARQL, SPARQL (by value)

Value type “recording studio (Q746369), music venue (Q8719053), church building (Q16970), stadium (Q483110), music festival (Q868557), music festival edition (Q41582469), performing arts center (Q3469910), prison (Q40357), urban park (Q22746), concert (Q182832), arena (Q641226), park (Q22698), university (Q3918), theatre building (Q24354), event venue (Q18674739), museum (Q33506), palace (Q16560), venue (Q17350442), laboratory (Q483242), school (Q3914), sound stage (Q6497985), residence (Q699405), fair (Q288514), festival (Q132241), coffeehouse (Q30022), lecture hall (Q253275), library (Q7075), amusement park (Q194195), radio program (Q1555508), house (Q3947), building (Q41176), radio station (Q14350), party (Q200538)”: This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31), subclass of (P279) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value recording studio (Q746369), music venue (Q8719053), church building (Q16970), stadium (Q483110), music festival (Q868557), music festival edition (Q41582469), performing arts center (Q3469910), prison (Q40357), urban park (Q22746), concert (Q182832), arena (Q641226), park (Q22698), university (Q3918), theatre building (Q24354), event venue (Q18674739), museum (Q33506), palace (Q16560), venue (Q17350442), laboratory (Q483242), school (Q3914), sound stage (Q6497985), residence (Q699405), fair (Q288514), festival (Q132241), coffeehouse (Q30022), lecture hall (Q253275), library (Q7075), amusement park (Q194195), radio program (Q1555508), house (Q3947), building (Q41176), radio station (Q14350), party (Q200538) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P483#Value type Q746369, Q8719053, Q16970, Q483110, Q868557, Q41582469, Q3469910, Q40357, Q22746, Q182832, Q641226, Q22698, Q3918, Q24354, Q18674739, Q33506, Q16560, Q17350442, Q483242, Q3914, Q6497985, Q699405, Q288514, Q132241, Q30022, Q253275, Q7075, Q194195, Q1555508, Q3947, Q41176, Q14350, Q200538, SPARQL

Conflicts with “instance of (P31): musical work/composition (Q105543609)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P483#Conflicts with P31, search, SPARQL

This property is being used by: eu:Txantiloi:Musika disko infotaula automatikoa, eu:Txantiloi:Lan infotaula automatikoa, eu:Txantiloi:Lan infotaula ca:Plantilla:Infotaula d'àlbum, ca:Plantilla:Infotaula de cançó, ca:Plantilla:Infotaula composició/proves, ca:Plantilla:Infotaula obra musical kab:Talɣa:Infobox music, kab:Talɣa:Infobox intellectual work ha:Template:Infobox intellectual work tt:Калып:Опера, tt:Калып:Төркемнәр өчен навигация/комлык, tt:Калып:Музыкаль альбом ig:Àtụ:Infobox intellectual work ga:Teimpléad:WD Bosca Sonraí Amhrán be-tarask:Шаблён:Самотнік oc:Modèl:Infobox Òbra musicala Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Live albums?

If the subject is a live album (Q209939), can this property also be used for the event where the album was recorded? For example: Fun Time (Q5508686): recorded at studio or venue (P483) Montreal International Jazz Festival (Q614639) (and perhaps point in time (P585) 1975) --DSGalaktos (talk) 11:00, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

It's been some years and I'm still not sure what to use for a recording venue of a live album (Q209939). The present property recorded at studio or venue (P483) seems to fit just fine, but what then to do about "value type recording studio (Q746369)" constraint violation? Places such as concert hall (Q1060829), theatre building (Q24354), stadium (Q483110), arena (Q641226) and even music venue (Q8719053) are obviously not studios. Shall we simply ignore the constraint? Or is there a better move?
Btw, {{Infobox album}} and similar WP templates no longer use |recorded= for a recording place, it is now used for a recording date instead, whereas |studio= and |venue= are the parameters for places, the latter being the exact one for live albums. This should be at least reflected in the above documentation, which is currently not up to date. — Mike Novikoff 16:30, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Seems to be a property constraint "recording studio" is a very poor constraint, since very many albums (not just live albums) are recorded in unusual places. Can the constraint be removed? --Mcld (talk) 18:15, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Merge with Property:P915 "filming location"?

I have proposed in the discussion for Property:P915 to rename it from "filming location" to "recorded at", and one other user agrees. Would it be appropriate to merge this P483 into P915? They seem to me to be the same concept, just that they're created by the music community and the film community respectively.--Mcld (talk) 18:14, 1 August 2020 (UTC)