Property talk:P500

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Dinsdagskind in topic Property constraint for enclave within (P501)

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exclave of
territory is legally or politically attached to a main territory with which it is not physically contiguous because of surrounding alien territory. It may also be an enclave.
Descriptionterritory is legally or politically attached to a main territory with which it is not physically contiguous because of surrounding alien territory. It may also be an enclave.
Representsexclave (Q933394)
Data typeItem
Domain
According to this template: places: exclaves
According to statements in the property:
exclave (Q933394)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed valuesadministrative divisions, countries (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
ExampleLlívia (Q13745)Spain (Q29)
Ceuta (Q5823)Spain (Q29)
Baarle-Hertog (Q244959)Province of Antwerp (Q1116)
Sourcee.g. en:Category:Exclaves (note: this information should be moved to a property statement; use property source website for the property (P1896))
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P500 (Q23909027)
See alsoenclave within (P501), shares border with (P47)
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Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total141
Main statement13797.2% of uses
Qualifier42.8% of uses
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Type “exclave (Q933394): item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “exclave (Q933394)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P500#Type Q933394, SPARQL
Value type “human-geographic territorial entity (Q15642541): This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value human-geographic territorial entity (Q15642541) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P500#Value type Q15642541, SPARQL
Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P500#Scope, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Standalone property or qualifier? edit

Shouldn't this quality be better defined as a qualifier of the property country or is in administrative unit?--Šlomo (talk) 07:18, 12 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Are you sure everywhere this is used, it is an administrative unit involved? -- Lavallen (block) 07:48, 12 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
No, that's why I wrote country (i.e. exclaves on national level) or is in administrative unit (i.e. exclaves on subnational level). If you intend to use it for other meanings (ethnical, religious etc. exclaves), feel free to add corresponding properties to the proposed domain of the qualifier.--Šlomo (talk) 16:31, 12 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
I know geographic areas in my neighbourhood that are exclaves of Census-districts. But Census-districts are not administrative units, they are a geographic divison. These areas have no items for them at the moment, I think. -- Lavallen (block) 16:46, 12 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
This is a broader issue than just the question of exclaves. Personally I'd suggest to use the Property:P131 for "non-administrative" territorial units on subnational level as well. Supposed, their existence has some legal bases - excluding ethnographical, geomorphological a.s.o. regions. This is what I actually see happening with items from my vicinity - census regions connected with administrative regions with Property:P131 and Property:P150. It's probably not correct according to the "definition" of the properties, but I suppose it's easier to join this direction than to fight it...
Anyway, if the region in question wouldn't be an exclave, would you feel necessity of a property describing it as a part of the census-district? If yes - let's find/make a property for it and add a qualifier specifying it as an exclave. And if not - it's also not necessery to describe it as an exclave.--Šlomo (talk) 18:13, 12 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Property constraint for enclave within (P501) edit

An exclave isn't necessarily also an enclave. For example, Kaliningrad Oblast (Q1749) is an exclave of Russia (Q159) but it borders Poland (Q36), Lithuania (Q37), and the Baltic Sea (Q545), therefore it is not an enclave. So in my opinion, there shouldn't be a property constraint to also have enclave within (P501) listed. Dinsdagskind (talk) 14:04, 1 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

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