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complies with
the product or work complies with a certain norm or passes a test

Description	the product or work complies with a certain norm or passes a test
Represents	compliance (Q105476441)
Data type	Item
Domain	technical standard (Q317623), work (Q386724), (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Example	Mercedes-Benz OM646 engine (Q1921277) → EURO3 (Q13424865) People's Party (Q185088) → PP (Spain) privacy policy (Q60178324)
Source	specific to the norm or test (note: this information should be moved to a property statement; use property source website for the property (P1896))
See also	product certification (P1389), assessment (P5021)
Lists	Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Database reports/Constraint violations/P5009
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 606 Main statement 561 92.6% of uses Qualifier 45 7.4% of uses
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Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5009#Scope, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Value type “technical standard (Q317623), rule (Q1151067), test (Q1003030), quality control method (Q65938634), specification (Q2101564), Request for Comments (Q212971), law (Q7748), definition (Q101072)”: This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31), subclass of (P279) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value technical standard (Q317623), rule (Q1151067), test (Q1003030), quality control method (Q65938634), specification (Q2101564), Request for Comments (Q212971), law (Q7748), definition (Q101072) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5009#Value type Q317623, Q1151067, Q1003030, Q65938634, Q2101564, Q212971, Q7748, Q101072, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5009#Entity types

This property is being used by: it:Template:Telefono cellulare ca:Plantilla:Infotaula equipament informàtic vec:Modeło:Infobox de Aparato Informàdego ga:Teimpléad:WD Bosca Sonraí Trealamh Ríomhaireachta Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Non-compliance property?

Is there a property to use when an item does not comply with another item? The Bechdel test (Q4165246) was used as an example when P5009 was first proposed, but it appears as though we still need Q45172088 to provide a counterpart to Q45171911. More generally, it would be nice to be able to use Wikidata to express the compliance table here: w:Comparison of electoral systems#Comparisons, and to more-easily collaborate on all of the citations associated with that table. I was able to successfully mark the relationship between Copeland's method (Q5168347) and monotonicity criterion (Q6902035) (because Copeland complies with Monotonicity), but (for example) it doesn't yet seem possible to mark the relationship between instant-runoff voting (Q1491219) and monotonicity criterion (Q6902035) (which doesn't comply). -- RobLa (talk) 22:11, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Bechdel test as an example

I removed the Bechdel test as a property example, for now, as this property is not used for it, currently (has characteristic (P1552) is used as it also allows to indicate that a narrative work fails the test - without saying that this is a good way to provide this information). Should there be a decision to use P5009 instead, I will readd the Bechdel test as a property example. - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 16:12, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Isn't "complies with" a better property for that than the more generic "has quality"? Omegatron (talk) 17:29, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Currently there is no way to express that a film does not comply with a test. But even if there was one: We have to think of media representation tests without binary "complies with"/"does not comply with" results, but just a score or something like that. We would need to discuss this in Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Media_Representation. Until we reached consensus I would not like to make any edits that favour one approach or another. (But we are aware that there may be a better property than has characteristic (P1552), in the future) - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 13:09, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Something like the Bechdel test or the Condorcet criterion is a binary result, not a score. Something either complies or it doesn't. So this is the best property to describe compliance, and then we need a "doesn't comply with" property to complement it, as in the previous discussions:

• Property_talk:P5009#Non-compliance_property?
• Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2020/01#Reasonably_quick_way_to_resolve_"non-compliance_property"_issue?
• Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2020/02#How_to_say_"meets_criteria"_or_"doesn't_meet_criteria"?_and_"How?"
• Wikidata:Property proposal/fails compliance with

• Transcluded here: Wikidata:Property_proposal/Generic#Fails_compliance_with

Omegatron (talk) 14:01, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

As I already wrote: We have to think of media representation tests without binary "complies with"/"does not comply with" results. The Bechdel test is not the only Media Representation Test. - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 14:57, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

To have a media representation test that is not binary: the DuVernay Test (Which does not make complies with (P5009) not applicable generally, but we have to take it into account. Maybe a third property for tests that has a score as a result could be used, if complies with (P5009)/fails compliance with should be used) - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 15:14, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Ok, but assessment (P5021) and test score (P5022) already exist. Do they work for that test? Omegatron (talk) 15:31, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Yes, that could be possible. Sorry for stalling but I would like to take my time to think about it and I would not like to rush without knowing how other project members feel about it. :) - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 15:44, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Use as qualifier?

I am about to propose a property for URL to accessibility reports (which many public organizations are required to publish and other organizations do as well). I am thinking that using this as a qualifier to specify what standard they are aiming for and measure against in those reports. Any viewpoints on that? Ainali (talk) 10:34, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Thinking a bit more, and discussing with Abbe98, I think perhaps it should be the other way around than what I first suggested. So for a statement with P5009, there could be a qualifier with accessibility report URL for values of that type (probably most often Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (Q5364439), but there might be others). Ainali (talk) 12:30, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Since the property has been created, I'll change the constraints to allow for being used as qualifier. Ainali (talk) 08:16, 30 April 2021 (UTC)