Property talk:P577

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Descriptiondate of publication of the creative work (book, film, and so on)
Representsdate of publication (Q1361758)
Data typePoint in time
According to this template: work (Q386724)
According to statements in the property:
work (Q386724), theory (Q17737), rule (Q1151067), group of works (Q17489659), version, edition, or translation (Q3331189), fictitious work (Q15306849) or product (Q2424752)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values
ExampleThe standardisation of mineral group hierarchies: application to recent nomenclature proposals (Q19983493)
The Gold Rush (Q214723)
Polonaise-Fantaisie (Q3132823)
Soukenický cech v Příboře (Q48247091) → 1900sdate QS:P,+1900-00-00T00:00:00Z/8
Robot and gadget jobsDeltaBot does the following jobs:
Tracking: sameno label (Q32100797)
Tracking: differencesno label (Q32100793)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P577 (Q20990012)
Tracking: local yes, WD nono label (Q32070756)
See alsopublisher (P123), place of publication (P291)
  • Items with no other statements
  • Most recently created items
  • Items with novalue claims
  • Items with unknown value claims
  • Usage history
  • Future dates
  • Dates in Gregorian calendar before 1582
  • Dates before year 1 (Help:Dates#Years BC)
  • Database reports/Constraint violations/P577
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    Current uses
    Main statement39,532,68692.6% of uses
    Qualifier385,0130.9% of uses
    Reference2,793,4566.5% of uses
    [create Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here]
      Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P577#type Q386724, Q17737, Q1151067, Q17489659, Q3331189, Q15306849, Q2424752, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
    Conflicts with “instance of (P31): Wikimedia template (Q11266439): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P577#Conflicts with P31, hourly updated report, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
      Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P577#Conflicts with P31, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
    Range from “-3190000-00-00T00:00:00Z” to “+3190000-00-00T00:00:00Z”: values should be in the range from “-3190000-00-00T00:00:00Z” to “+3190000-00-00T00:00:00Z”. (Help)
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P577#Range, SPARQL (new)
    Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as qualifier (Q54828449), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P577#scope, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
    Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200), lexeme (Q51885771), form (Q54285143), sense (Q54285715), Wikibase property (Q29934218), Wikibase MediaInfo (Q59712033): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P577#allowed entity types, SPARQL (new)
    Conflicts with “instance of (P31): human (Q5), fictional character (Q95074): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P577#Conflicts with P31, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
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    Sheet musicEdit

    I think this property should be used also for a date of publication of sheet music. --Pabouk (talk) 19:43, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

    I just proposed a more general property, applicable for more types of work than just books: Wikidata:Property_proposal/Creative_work#completed. But sheet music might considered as a book, I don't know. Anyway, my proposal would help for paintings/sculptures/etc. Nicolas1981 (talk) 09:16, 29 January 2014 (UTC)


    Can this be used for the (first?) release date of software? --Nemo 07:24, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

    As "software" is "subclass of" creative work, I would say so :) --Bthfan (talk) 13:04, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
    @Nemo bis, Bthfan: Please join the discussion about the use of P577 on software here --★ → Airon 90 10:36, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

    film release dateEdit

    Is there a possibility to add another release date for a film (example: first release on free tv; first release in another country, etc. -- 17:42, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

    Have a look at Lucy (Q15624215). --- Jura 18:13, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

    Multiple Publication Dates (sub-works, volumes, etc)Edit

    What should one do when there are multiple publication dates for a work which represents multiple volumes or sub-sections? As concrete examples, consider the serialization of Great Expectations (Q219552) (from enwiki: "Serialized 1860-1; book form 1861", which I think would be represented as two Statements in wikidata, one for the complete book and the other for the serialization over a time period), or the ongoing pulication of The Art of Computer Programming (Q82438) (perhaps each volume should be a distinct Item?), or Kunstformen der Natur (Q1423459) (from enwiki: "Originally published in sets of ten between 1899 and 1904 and collectively in two volumes in 1904").

    I think there are many cases of multiple publication where there can be multiple entries with qualification (eg, by "place of publication", or by edition), but sometimes that doesn't make sense. Perhaps the right thing to do is just take the first or last ("complete") date, but this is not complete. One option might be "start time" and "end time" qualifiers? Blnewbold (talk) 22:58, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

    a lot of books (in 2 or more volumes) have been published through a period of time, like "1866-1868"... currently, I add both, and qualify one with start time (Q24575110) and the other with end time (Q24575125). Not sure it's the best way... any thoughts @Billinghurst, VIGNERON: ? --Hsarrazin (talk) 10:28, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
    I would start with a comment about whether we are talking about an version, edition, or translation (Q3331189) that is published over a span of time, or we are talking about a "work" that as a conceptual idea is published as of a date. Personally I feel that you would maybe need an instance of "serialised edition" (we may need to create the item) where I would then have specific and multiple publication dates, but that is my uneducated, unfinessed approach. If a work is volumes as in 63 vol. of biographies, I could see it argued that as each volume could have a separate (later) publication date, that the "parent work" could have a start and end date.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:09, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
    I've used start time (P580) and end time (P582), e.g. for the version, edition, or translation (Q3331189) Dizionario mitologico, 1755-1758 Italian edition (Q54087754) as documented at Help:Dates#Qualifiers. I've added them to the allowed qualifiers constraint (Q21510851) now. --Marsupium (talk) 11:29, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

    Add qualifiers "beginning" and "end"Edit

    Hi, I think we need to add qualifiers to this property: to specify, in case of a revue or journal, the beginning and the end of the publication. Regards, Yann (talk) 14:44, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

    I think we have inception (P571)/start time (P580) and dissolved, abolished or demolished date (P576)/end time (P582) instead. Paucabot (talk) 10:00, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
    Moreover, sometimes I need such qualifiers for inception (P571), because creation can be some long process. --Infovarius (talk) 17:58, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
    I've added the qualifiers start time (P580) and end time (P582) to the allowed qualifiers constraint (Q21510851) now as they are needed for multi-volumed works (and editions), cf. the section #Multiple Publication Dates (sub-works, volumes, etc) above. An example is Dizionario mitologico, 1755-1758 Italian edition (Q54087754). --Marsupium (talk) 11:31, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

    English description: Release date vs. publication dateEdit

    @Sheldon.andre: I am going to revert the change from publication date to release date, since "release date" does not fit with current usage of the property in the context of scholarly publications, nor with the descriptions in other languages. I like the idea of calling this "release date", though, so I'm hereby inviting further opinions. Mattsenate (talk) 13:11, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
    KHammerstein (WMF) (talk) 13:15, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
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    Daniel Mietchen (talk) 18:09, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
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    Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 02:06, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
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    Abecker (talk) 23:35, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
    Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:21, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
    Mike Linksvayer (talk) 23:26, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
    Kopiersperre (talk) 20:33, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
    Jonathan Dugan (talk) 21:03, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
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    Trilotat Trilotat (talk) 15:43, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
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      Notified participants of WikiProject Source MetaData --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 10:55, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

    Thanks. sheldon_andre (talk) 13:50, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

    added qualifierEdit

    I have added sourcing circumstances (P1480) as an acceptable qualifier as there are works where there is no exact date of publication on the work, though its date is surmised through history and provenance.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:06, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

    thanks billinghurst, sourcing circumstances (P1480) should be an acceptable qualifier on all date type properties, since for old dates, it is never possible to get a certain date... :) --Hsarrazin (talk) 10:23, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

    subproperty of begin date ?Edit

    Seems incorrect. U’ll remove. Please cry if that breaks something such that we can find a solution. author  TomT0m / talk page 15:11, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

    "Published in" as a qualifierEdit

    I added "published in" (P1433) as an property to the "allowed qualifiers constraint" (Q21510851) of "publication date" (P577), and it was reverted by Succu. I think that "published in" (P577) is a useful qualifier, just like "place of publication" (P291), which has been an allowed qualifier already. Succu, could you please explain your reverting? Thank you.--Neo-Jay (talk) 07:08, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

    @Succu: I think that I understand why you reverted my edit. "Publication date" (P577) is the time when a work was first published or released. We do not need to differentiate a work's different first publication dates when it was "published in" (P1433) different larger works such as newspapers, books, or journals. Now I agree with you that P1433 should not be added as an allowed qualifier. Thank you. --Neo-Jay (talk) 07:31, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

    Add version type (P548) to the allowed qualifiersEdit

    It would allow to indicate the first beta release and the first stable release--Malore (talk) 22:17, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

    Add stated as (P1932) to the allowed constraintsEdit

    Dates of publication may be expressed in Roman numerals or other systems, so stated as (P1932) should be added to the allowed constraints. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:37, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

    Add applies to part (P518) to the allowed qualifiersEdit

    This will occur, for example, for hymns where the publication of the lyrics often happens at a different time than the publication of the music. Calliopejen1 (talk) 05:11, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

    Possible Constraints for dateEdit

    Please take a look into this discussion--Alexmar983 (talk) 15:44, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

    Constraint violation: range violationEdit

    What does this error mean in Harvest Template? I am trying to import release years f.e. into Q69490215. Queryzo (talk) 22:44, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

    Editio princeps versus publication dateEdit

    I think there is an inconsistent use of this property when talking about ancient or medieval manuscripts: does the date of publication refer to the original moment of creation by the scribe, or to the subsequent editorial publication of the manuscript in a scholarly journal? I think it is confusing, for example, to see items which have dates of publication 100BCE and 1900 at the same time.

    Unless there is an already convenient wikidata property, I think we should refer to the original creation as "date of publication" and the subsequent scholarly printing as "editio princeps" and then use a different property for subsequent publications like P747 [1]. I [2] proposed this but want to cross-check with people using P577 already. --Valeriummaximum (talk) 21:26, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

    Edition numberEdit

    Hi all, why is edition number not allowed in the qualifiers as it is in all the other properties dealing with books? Volume is included but edition is not, that makes it difficult to be consistent. Thanks! Footlessmouse (talk) 21:46, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

    Televisions seriesEdit

    Why was television series added to the constraints list? - X201 (talk) 08:28, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

    Television series are modelled with start time (P580) and end time (P582) for the broadcast/publication dates of the first and last episodes. publication date (P577) doesn't work well for series of works (television series, book series, etc.) where separate parts are published over a period of time. And while there are some series that get published in their entirety on the same date, it makes things more complicated using a different property only for those cases, instead of using that date as value for both start time (P580) and end time (P582). publication date (P577) can and should instead be used on the items for the indiviual episodes. --Kam Solusar (talk) 17:56, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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