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DBUnico MIBACT ID
database identifier from the Italian Ministry MIBACT (DBUnico 2.0)

Associated item	Ministry of Culture (Q1347047)
Applicable "stated in" value	DBUnico MiBACT database (Q52896862)
Data type	External identifier
Allowed values	^[1-9]\d{4,5}$
Example	Villetta Di Negro (Q4012942) → 107176 (RDF) Doge's Palace, Genoa (Q2047566) → 107205 (RDF) Ospedale del Ceppo (Q1115846) → 103212 (RDF)
Formatter URL	http://dati.beniculturali.it/mibact/luoghi/resource/CulturalInstituteOrSite/$1
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P5782 (Q56479546)
Related to country	Italy (Q38) (See 396 others)
See also	ICCD ID - S form (P6286), ICCD ID - CF form (P6287), ICCD ID - CG form (P6288), beniculturali.it place ID (P11601), Catalogo Nazionale Dati ID (P12171)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other external identifier Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Database reports/Constraint violations/P5782 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 6,686 Main statement 6,679 99.9% of uses Qualifier 3 <0.1% of uses Reference 4 <0.1% of uses
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Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5782#Single value, SPARQL

Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5782#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Format “^[1-9]\d{4,5}$”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5782#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Item “heritage designation (P1435)”: Items with this property should also have “heritage designation (P1435)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5782#Item P1435, search, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5782#Entity types

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5782#Scope, SPARQL

Label required in languages: it: Entities using this property should have labels in one of the following languages: it (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5782#Label in 'it' language, search, SPARQL

Other MiBACT Identifiers, specific identifier

Hello,

This property is really important in order to link together Wikidata and MiBACT data clouds.

What I would like to discuss is that in my opinion we should change the different labels and descriptions of this property in order to point out that it is a property related to MiBACT Id for Cultural Institute or Site, not to all the MiBACT database. In the italian description is already specified (luoghi=locations).

As an example, we couldn't link the item Primavera (Q549847) using DBUnico MIBACT ID (P5782) with the following page: Id 0900158550 of the Historic or Artistic Property catalogue.

I wanted to start a discussion instead of changing labels and description of this property.

I could also help by creating the property proposal for the other MiBACT IDs. Here I list a couple of examples:

• MiBACT Id for Historic or Artistic Property
• MiBACT Id for Architectural or Landscape Heritage
• MiBACT Id for Photographic Heritage
• MiBACT Id for Cultural Event
• MiBACT Id for Music Heritage
• MiBACT Id for Naturale Heritage
• MiBACT Id for Numismatic Property
• MiBACT Id for Archaeological Property

What do you think? Thank you,

--Luca.favorido (talk) 16:54, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

@Luca.favorido: Hi! I thank you for the proposal, personally I greatly support the need of having one or more properties covering all the parts of the website dati.beniculturali.it. Exactly some days ago Wikidata:Property proposal/dati.beniculturali.it ID has been proposed and I hope that, probably with some adjustments, this new proposed property can cover most or all of the parts of the website. Anyway, I think that the correct way of acting is creating one or more new properties, instead of changing this property (in general, changing existing properties is a discouraged practice). I would suggest to continue the reflection in the property proposal. Looking forward to hear your opinion there, --Epìdosis 18:28, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

@Epìdosis: Hello Epìdosis, first of all thanks for your response! That makes sense, changing a property would have effects on all the elements linked to that property. I've read the property proposal by Chiaraven, I will comment directly on that property. I've also subscribed to the WikiProject Italy, I will read the pages of the project and then in the future I could give my help. ;-) --Luca.favorido (talk) 19:25, 1 January 2021 (UTC)