Property talk:P691

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identifier in the Czech National Authority Database (National Library of Czech Republic)
DescriptionID of an authority file in the National Library of the Czech Republic
RepresentsCzech National Authority Database (Q13550863)
Associated itemNational Library of the Czech Republic (Q1967876)
Applicable "stated in" valueCzech National Authority Database (Q13550863)
Has qualityVIAF component (Q26921380)
Data typeExternal identifier
Corresponding templateTemplate:NL ČR (Q10804062)
Template parameter|1= in cs:Template:NK ČR
Domainmainly persons, others too (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Allowed values[a-z]{2,4}[0-9]{2,14}
ExampleVáclav Klaus (Q57434)jn19990218045
Jana Berdychová (Q9065647)jk01011783
Basshunter (Q383541)xx0109159
Czech Red Cross (Q4515418)ko2003203322
Formatter URL$1$1&CON_LNG=ENG
Robot and gadget jobsDeltaBot does the following jobs:
Tracking: differencesno label (Q14799954)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P691 (Q9545368)
Tracking: local yes, WD noCategory:Property P691 missing at Wikidata, but information available in Wikipedia (Q14799963)
Related to country  Czech Republic (Q213) (See 85 others)
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    Current uses
    Total703,503distinct valuesratio
    Main statement410,356 out of 952,974 (43% complete)58.3% of uses401,5501.0
    Qualifier4<0.1% of uses
    Reference293,14341.7% of uses
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    Format “[a-z]{2,4}[0-9]{2,14}: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P691#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
    Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P691#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value), SPARQL (new)
    Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P691#Single value, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
    Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P691#scope, hourly updated report, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
    Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
    Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
    List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P691#allowed entity types, SPARQL (new)

    new THIS and no VIAF constraint at NKC identifierEdit

    Hi I found the page about НКВД at NKVD (Q182449) . Until today the value kn20010711414 for NKCR AUT ID (P691) was available but no VIAF identifier was present.
    Please add a constraint violation report for all pages where P691 is present but VIAF ID (P214) is not.
    It should be possible to find the correlated VIAF id via [1]. This search returns more results. You need to identify the correct one. Here the right one is viaf:138853936.
    Please add links of the followimg format to the report:


    Thanks in advance! לערי ריינהארט (talk) 02:49, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

    constraint report relating to Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410)Edit

    If instance of (P31) is a Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410) the presence of NKCR AUT ID (P691) is prohibited

    see: Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410) with NKC identifier (P691) . Usualy there might be two possibilities:
    a) please identify the non - ambiguation page (WD item) where the property NKC identifier should be moved;
    "normally" no other statements should be left at the disambiguation page;
    it can happen that a set of properties should be moved to another (a second) WD item, another set to a third WD item etc.
    b) verify which language is a disambiguation page and separate it from the rest; please use Gadget-labelLister.js can be activated at preferences#gadgets to remove all faulty descriptions after the disambiguation page is separated (the languages are de, en, fr, es, pt, pt-br, ru, sv and possibly some others).

    Thanks in advance! gangLeri לערי ריינהארט (talk) 17:40, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

    There is problem b), one of linked pages is disambiguation. Both (cswiki) articles, where is NKCR AUT ID (P691) are correct. JAn Dudík (talk) 21:26, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
    @JAn_Dudík I will look at it tomorrow. לערי ריינהארט (talk) 21:33, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

    Constraint single valueEdit

    @Jklamo, Mormegil: Would it make sense to replace current constraint single value constraint (Q19474404) by single-best-value constraint (Q52060874)? The reason is that single value constraint (Q19474404) leads to recognition of deprecated values, such as those in Johann Nepomuk Huber (Q75037), as constraint violations... Vojtěch Dostál (talk) 14:03, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

    Sure, that makes sense.--Jklamo (talk) 20:45, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
    OK, will do, I just hope that Krbot will be able to understand this new constraint and report mistakes accordingly.Vojtěch Dostál (talk) 13:47, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
    Unfortunately, it seems that this type of constraint would require "best ranks" for one of the values, which is not what we want to do. We want to keep all values as "normal rank" except for the deprecated ones. Not sure what to do. Vojtěch Dostál (talk) 13:51, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
    I do not understand. Johann Nepomuk Huber (Q75037) seems to be completely wrong (as is probably VIAF). What does that Johann Nepomuk Huber (Q75037) NKCR AUT ID (P691) jo2013797195 / reason for deprecation (P2241) duplicate entry (Q1263068) even mean? Especially that “ reason for deprecation (P2241) duplicate entry (Q1263068)” seems to be very strange – I don’t think we should choose and deprecate any identifier, that is the job for NKČR; only after they find out they have a duplicate identifier (e.g. thanks to us telling them) and fix that in their database, we should follow suit. Other than that, I see nothing systematically wrong at the item which could be detected by a constraint specification. So, in other words: what are you trying to achieve (maybe more examples)? --Mormegil (talk) 09:39, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
    @Mormegil: Yeah, let's put this specific case aside (I know that it's up to NKČR to decide which one of them is a duplicity. However, this is the simplest way to tag the item so that NKČR sees it in the monitoring Wikidata queries and fixes it. We can definitely think of other, more logical ways of tagging duplicate entries). There are other reasons why P691 value might be deprecated ( Take the case of Samuel Johnson (Q183266) for example - one that also shows up in Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P691. I am trying to find a way to fix the property's constraints so that Krbot2's reporting works well for these kinds of items (which it doesn't right now). Or can you think of other solutions? Vojtěch Dostál (talk) 10:02, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
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