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parent organization
parent organization of an organization, opposite of subsidiaries (P355)

Description	parent organization of an organization (distinct from owned by (P127))
Represents	parent company (Q1956113)
Data type	Item
Template parameter	Can be mapped to en:template:infobox company, with its field called parent. Also en:template:infobox airline, again the field is called parent.
Domain	organization (Q43229), fictional organization (Q14623646), project (Q170584), religious organization (Q1530022), recurring event (Q15275719), festival (Q132241) or center (Q68773434)
Allowed values	Companies - company (Q783794), Organisations - organization (Q43229) (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Example	According to this template: see en:British Airways and en:GE Capital. At the moment we can scrape divisions (such as en:GE Money), but not parent companies or subsidiaries. BA's parent company would be en:International Airlines Group, and GEC's en:General Electric. BA would then also be added as the parent company of en:BA CityFlyer, en:OpenSkies, en:British Airways Limited. According to statements in the property: Airbus (Q67) → Airbus Group (Q2311) Ministry of Civil Affairs of the People's Republic of China (Q907098) → State Council of the People's Republic of China (Q59261) When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Source	several infoboxes use this -- like the one given above (note: this information should be moved to a property statement; use property source website for the property (P1896))
Robot and gadget jobs	Ideally this should be reciprocal with subsidiary, I would imagine, but that doesn't exist at the moment either (though I'm about to propose it too).
Tracking: same	no label (Q42533284)
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P749 (Q23909078)
Tracking: local yes, WD no	no label (Q101364584)
See also	part of (P361), parent club (P831), owned by (P127), member of (P463)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties By value of property Most statements Fewest statements Most sitelinks Most linked wikis Total of sitelinks on items Most identifiers Fewest identifiers Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Database reports/Constraint violations/P749 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 144,058 Main statement 143,875 99.9% of uses Qualifier 170 0.1% of uses Reference 13 <0.1% of uses
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Type “organization (Q43229), fictional organization (Q14623646), project (Q170584), religious organization (Q1530022), recurring event (Q15275719), festival (Q132241), center (Q68773434)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)” with classes “organization (Q43229), fictional organization (Q14623646), project (Q170584), religious organization (Q1530022), recurring event (Q15275719), festival (Q132241), center (Q68773434)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P749#Type Q43229, Q14623646, Q170584, Q1530022, Q15275719, Q132241, Q68773434, SPARQL

Value type “organization (Q43229), fictional organization (Q14623646), project (Q170584), religious organization (Q1530022), scientific organization (Q16519632), academies and institutes (Q70363582)”: This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value organization (Q43229), fictional organization (Q14623646), project (Q170584), religious organization (Q1530022), scientific organization (Q16519632), academies and institutes (Q70363582) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P749#Value type Q43229, Q14623646, Q170584, Q1530022, Q16519632, Q70363582, SPARQL

Contemporaries:
if [item A] has this property (parent organization (P749)) linked to [item B],
then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P749#Contemporary, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P749#Entity types

Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P749#Scope, SPARQL

This property is being used by: ru:Шаблон:Карточка компании ru:Шаблон:Музыкальный лейбл ru:Шаблон:Карточка авиакомпании cs:Šablona:Infobox - firma, cs:Šablona:Infobox - hudební vydavatelství, cs:Šablona:Infobox - základní škola, cs:Šablona:Infobox - internetová společnost he:תבנית:חברה_מסחרית hu:Sablon:Cég infobox, hu:Sablon:Lemezkiadó infobox, hu:Sablon:Weboldal infobox, hu:Sablon:Kórház infobox, hu:Sablon:Légitársaság infobox b:hu:Sablon:Cég infobox hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Բորսա, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Ընկերություն, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Թանգարան, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Կայք, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Հեռուստաալիք, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Ռազմական ստորաբաժանում, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Կազմակերպություն, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Բանտ, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Կառույց os:Хуызæг:Infobox company tg:Шаблон:Ширкат uk:Шаблон:Банк, uk:Шаблон:Картка компанії, uk:Шаблон:Авіакомпанія, uk:Шаблон:Залізниця, uk:Шаблон:Картка організації, uk:Шаблон:Картка:Університет, uk:Шаблон:Картка:Організація, uk:Шаблон:Картка:Організація/пісочниця, uk:Шаблон:Картка компанії тест, uk:Шаблон:Академічна установа, uk:Шаблон:Картка:Наукова організація, uk:Шаблон:Концтабір ce:Кеп:Компани ca:Plantilla:Infotaula automòbil, ca:Plantilla:Infotaula d'organització, ca:Plantilla:Infotaula lloc web, ca:Plantilla:Motocicleta fr:Modèle:Infobox Société, fr:Modèle:Infobox Compagnie ferroviaire zh-yue:Template:航空公司明細 el:Πρότυπο:Πληροφορίες εταιρείας, el:Πρότυπο:Πληροφορίες κυβερνητικού φορέα be-x-old:Шаблён:Кампанія de:Vorlage:Infobox Sportverein no:Mal:Infoboks firma, no:Mal:Infoboks plateselskap pt:Predefinição:Info/Companhia aérea/Wikidata, pt:Predefinição:Info/Empresa/Testes ro:Format:Infocaseta Canal TV ru:Шаблон:Авиакомпания es:Plantilla:Ficha de canal de televisión, es:Plantilla:Ficha de organización, es:Plantilla:Ficha de aerolínea, es:Plantilla:Ficha de bloque de programación, es:Plantilla:Ficha de estándar de tecnología hyw:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Ընկերութիւն, hyw:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Թանգարան, hyw:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Կազմակերպութիւն, hyw:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Կառոյց diq:Şablon:Medya, diq:Şablon:Wesayıt kab:Talɣa:Infobox website ast:Plantía:Organización it:Template:Azienda lij:Template:Inpréiza commons:Template:Aircraft cat, commons:Template:Aircraft mfr/layout, commons:Template:Mfr aircraft in country/layout gl:Modelo:Organización sc:Template:Azienda ary:موضيل:معلومات منضامة رياضية roa-tara:Template:Aziende be-tarask:Шаблён:Кампанія, be-tarask:Шаблён:Дзяржаўная ўстанова nn:Mal:Infoboks verksemd yue:Template:航空公司明細 uz:Andoza:Shirkat bilgiqutisi Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Non-company organizations

It should be changed to "parent organization" to include organizations which are not companies (as ministries etc.). --ŠJů (talk) 06:37, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

 Oppose, since "parent company" is defined by law, whereas "parent organisation" is ambiguous and can mean anything from owners to a larger group that the item belongs to. I would recommend creating a new property for "parent organisation". --Wylve (talk) 16:01, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Defined by law? Which law of which country? This is a multilingual project, and this property is not country-specific.--Underlying lk (talk) 07:04, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

What I was trying to say is that there are laws in many jurisdictions governing what "parent company" actually means. I don't think it is beneficial to made the scope of this property more ambiguous. —Wylve (talk) 12:57, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Well then, can we get another property for "parent organization" and make this an instance of that? Because we end up using this for government organizations (as Andreasmperu notes below), nonprofits (see Zine Archive and Publishing Project (Q19979286) for example), etc. and the name here is misleading. - Jmabel (talk) 06:25, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Both terms, "parent company" as well as "parent organization", have their sense, but we need to decide what of the two meanings we want to express. "Organization" is most wide term. Some (but not all) organizations are "companies". But some forms of entreprises are not companies (e.g. a "state enterprise" which has not the company form. Some organizations are not companies nor enterprises, typically non-profit governmental organizations, ministries etc. States, self-governing regions and municipalities can be conceived as "companies" in broader sense but not in strictu sense (as "trade companies").

The position of the parent organization can be various: the parent organization can be the "owner", or, more generally, the "founder". There is some distiction between the two terms. E.g. any club or association is founded by their members, and a subsidiary club by the parent club, but it is not exactly an "ownership" as in case of joint-stock company. --ŠJů (talk) 09:52, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Government organizations

Probably a good idea to extend the property to parent agency/departments. For instance, United States Department of Homeland Security (Q11231) for Federal Emergency Management Agency (Q503010). It does not seem practical to create another property for this purpose. Andreasm ^{háblame / just talk to me} 05:30, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

See Wikidata:Property proposal/supervisory authority --MB-one (talk) 13:36, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

parent organization (P749) and owned by (P127)

It is not clear when you should use parent organization (P749) compared to owned by (P127). I am presently using parent organization (P749) when the parent company has the controlling interest. This is in accordance with the present English description for parent company (Q1956113): "company that owns enough voting stock in another firm to control management and operations". — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 17:52, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Same issue here. Harvest won't let me add parent organization (P749) and owned by (P127) seems for building only. Can somebody clarify ?--Teolemon (talk) 11:59, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

When an organization owns at least 50% + 1 stock of an other organization, it can usually be considered its parent organization (P749). How much the parent organization (P749) owns of its has subsidiary (P355) can be specified with owned by (P127) and its proportion (P1107) qualifier. The RedBurn (ϕ) 13:19, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Military units

Should we use that property to indicate the parent unit (the formation of a higher level) of a military unit. For example the Regiment X is part of the Division Y, so the Division Y is its "parent unit"? Amqui (talk) 13:13, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

"has" vs. "is"

I find this property a bit confusing. Does (A, parent-organization, B) mean that A has B as a parent organization or that A is the parent oragnization of B? --WiseWoman (talk) 15:15, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Parent organization versus part of

I started a discussion about the relation between this property and part of (P361) at Wikidata:Project chat#Parent organization versus part of, please comment there. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 22:59, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Inverse constraint

I have deprecated the inverse constraint (Q21510855) requirement that a value for this property have a corresponding has subsidiary (P355) statement.

In general a parent organization (P749) value may have many many constituent sub-entities. Normal wikidata practice is to record many to one relationships on the many items, not the one. So one should not (generally) expect an inverse statement. Jheald (talk) 16:21, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Adding "as qualifier" to property scope

I am working on a Wikiproject modeling statements about archival collections, where members of the WikiProject have determined adding parent organization (P749) as a qualifier to an archives at (P485) statement would be useful. (See an example of the proposed use at Q449515#P485.) At the moment, parent organization (P749) has a property scope constraint (Q53869507) with the only allowed property scope (P5314) being as main value (Q54828448). I see there is much discussion of how parent organization (P749) has similarities to part of (P361), which can be used as a qualifier according to its property scope contstraint. Additionally, there are currently 166 uses of this property as a qualifier. Would there be any objection to me adding as qualifier (Q54828449) to this property's scope? --Infopetal (talk) 15:54, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

New York Public Library for the Performing Arts (Q7013890) already has parent organization (P749)New York Public Library (Q219555), I don’t see the point in repeating the same piece of information as a qualifier. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 21:52, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes, that statement is one we added added to items ourselves for NYPL research libraries and divisions, and we used parent organization (P749) and part of (P361) statements there so that all libraries and divisions and their relationships can be queried programmatically. Adding parent organization (P749): New York Public Library (Q219555) as a qualifier to archives at (P485) would be for human legibility when viewing or editing an individual item. A more illustrative example is Q118437842#P485, as in that case the larger library system is not clear from the statement's value or collection (P195) as neither clearly indicate New York Public Library (Q219555) in their name.

Aside from this specific use case, is there a reason that part of (P361) can be used as a qualifier where parent organization (P749) cannot? Reviewing the "Parent organization versus part of" thread, it appears there is a lot of overlap with how these properties operate otherwise. --Infopetal (talk) 00:42, 10 January 2024 (UTC)