Property talk:P8839

Latest comment: 1 month ago by Back ache in topic Hair length

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hairstyle / hairlength
style or length of cutting, arranging, or combing the hair on the subject's scalp
Representshairstyle (Q327496)
Data typeItem
Domainhuman (Q5), fictional character (Q95074), character that may or may not be fictional (Q21070598), alter ego (Q201662), fictional taxon (Q15707583) or sex doll (Q10832)
ExampleAfroman (Q225855)afro (Q388036)
Donald Trump (Q22686)comb over (Q2439902)
See alsohair color (P1884), wears (P3828), facial hair (P8852)
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Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total1,054
Main statement1,04399% of uses
Qualifier100.9% of uses
Reference1<0.1% of uses
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Value type “hairstyle (Q327496), premise (Q321703): This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31), subclass of (P279) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value hairstyle (Q327496), premise (Q321703) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8839#Value type Q327496, Q321703, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200), Wikibase MediaInfo (Q59712033): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8839#Entity types
Property “image (P18)” declared by target items of “hairstyle / hairlength (P8839): If [item A] has this property with value [item B], [item B] is required to have property “image (P18)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8839#Target required claim P18, SPARQL, SPARQL (by value)
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8839#Scope, SPARQL
Item “hair color (P1884): Items with this property should also have “hair color (P1884)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8839#Item P1884, search, SPARQL
None of beehive (Q165107): value must not be any of the specified items.
Replacement property:
Replacement values: beehive (Q675146) (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8839#none of, SPARQL
None of bun (Q13377687): value must not be any of the specified items.
Replacement property:
Replacement values: bun (Q15240969) (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8839#none of, SPARQL
None of braid (Q320809): value must not be any of the specified items.
Replacement property:
Replacement values: braid (Q31930755) (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P8839#none of, SPARQL

hairstyle and hair colour - how to model? edit

Right now style requires colour, but I can think of at least one style that doesn't have a colour -- baldness. Rather than require such a case with a null value, I recommend that colour be an optional qualifier for style. Arlo Barnes (talk) 22:27, 22 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Still need to sort out the whole baldness and toupe thing. --Trade (talk) 13:24, 23 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
I still think 'object has role' can be useful. So a bald person wearing a wig would have hairstyle=bald, hairstyle=[whatever the wig is] (o.h.r.=wig). Maybe an item 'style using natural hair' could be made to qualify the first statement, the same as we have the 'natural hair colour' / 'dyed hair colour' pair of items. Arlo Barnes (talk) 18:43, 23 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
Or, simply 'uses' as I tried out at Janice Rand (Q2707157). Arlo Barnes (talk) 18:58, 23 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Would you kindly copy the labels and aliases from hairstyle (Q327496) to this item? Like you did when creating facial hair? @Jura1:--Trade (talk) 08:56, 25 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hair length edit

Thoughts? @Arlo Barnes, Shisma:--Trade (talk) 12:40, 23 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

'has quality' either as a qualifier or standalone statement? And in some cases it would probably be better on the hairstyle item itself as a subclass-of (pageboys are always basically between the ear and shoulder, for instance). Arlo Barnes (talk) 19:01, 23 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
As standalone. Please see Kyoko Kirigiri (Q65663126) and Junko Enoshima (Q97667530) for examples. I would not use these on items such as Afroman (Q225855) for obvious reasons. --Trade (talk) 19:09, 23 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
What should be the value be for someone how is noted for being bald such as Q102813 Q982182 Q317251 Back ache (talk) 15:50, 8 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
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