Property talk:P9964

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Kolja21 in topic Other identifiers than GND

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Kalliope-Verbund (GND) ID
identifier for an entity in the Kalliope-Verbund database
Associated itemBerlin State Library (Q170109), Kalliope (Q1722480)
Applicable "stated in" valueKalliope (Q1722480)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5), organization (Q43229), architectural structure (Q811979), event (Q1656682), mythical character (Q4271324) or intellectual work (Q15621286)
Allowed values(1[0123]?\d{7}[0-9X]|[47]\d{6}-\d|[1-9]\d{0,7}-[0-9X]|3\d{7}[0-9X])
ExampleCharlemagne (Q3044)118560034
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (Q5879)118540238
Leila von Meister (Q95207486)116871180
Johannes Gutenberg (Q8958)118543768
Carl Theodor Welcker (Q64180)11863075X
International Youth Library (Q575153)1005531-9
Rotbuch Verlag (Q1631876)2032251-3
Sourcehttps://kalliope-verbund.info/de/index.html
Formatter URLhttps://kalliope-verbund.info/gnd/$1
https://kalliope-verbund.info/de/eac?eac.id=$1
https://kalliope-verbund.info/en/eac?eac.id=$1
Related to country  Germany (Q183) (See 374 others)
See alsoGND ID (P227)
Lists
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total287,973
Main statement287,930>99.9% of uses
Qualifier7<0.1% of uses
Reference36<0.1% of uses
Search for values
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Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P9964#Entity types, hourly updated report
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P9964#Scope, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Format “(1[0123]?\d{7}[0-9X]|[47]\d{6}-\d|[1-9]\d{0,7}-[0-9X]|3\d{7}[0-9X]): value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P9964#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL
Item “GND ID (P227): Items with this property should also have “GND ID (P227)”. (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P9964#Item P227, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL
Item “VIAF cluster ID (P214): Items with this property should also have “VIAF cluster ID (P214)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P9964#Item P214, search, SPARQL
Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P9964#Single value, SPARQL
Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P9964#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Other identifiers than GND

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Right now the property is limited to GND identifiers. What is the best way to change this? @UWashPrincipalCataloger, Emu: FYI. --Kolja21 (talk) 14:25, 2 April 2023 (UTC)Reply


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Hi! I have just discovered the existence of Kalliope-Verbund (GND) ID (P9964); just about 100 uses, surely redundant with GND ID (P227) (it was noticed by Jura in the proposal, in fact, but it was nevertheless created). I'm thinking of proposing its deletion ... would I be wrong? Thanks, --Epìdosis 16:01, 1 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Kalliope uses GND but it's an independent database = de:Vorlage:Kalliope. I don't know why Wikidata property example (P1855) only shows GNDs. There are other identifiers like CH-002121-2-991170522280805501 = Sokrates und das Göttliche von Hans-Georg Gadamer. Imho formatter URL (P1630) (and the values?) needs to be corrected. --Kolja21 (talk) 22:22, 1 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
OK. As of now the property is scoped for humans and organizations; they are all present in GND, right? If so, we could erase all the present values of the property (you could propose in the property talk page) and rescope it for documents. Would you agree? --Epìdosis 13:10, 2 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

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Hm. To be honest, I’m struggling to come up with ideas that wouldn’t create more problems than they solve … --Emu (talk) 14:31, 2 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Possible course of action:
Imho we should be able to use this property for humans, organizations and documents. (The German template has two parameters: person and object.) --Kolja21 (talk) 14:41, 2 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
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