Talk:Q5296

Latest comment: 18 days ago by Danny Benjafield (WMDE) in topic Talking about Wiktionaries

Autodescription — Wikimedia main page (Q5296)

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How to remove unwanted interwiki links from the main page edit

Put the magic word {{noexternallanglinks}} in the source code of the main page. It is described in detail here. Like other magic words, it can be translated here (choose "magic words"). --Njardarlogar (talk) 11:02, 9 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

List of wikis for which this should be done edit

The following wikis intentionally limit the number of interwiki links on their main pages, which I feel should be taken as grounds to add {{noexternallanglinks}}. This excludes wikis with no interwiki links listed, or links that have been maintained in a semi-random fashion by bots, as neither of these really shows a community consensus one way or the other; they can of course adjust accordingly in the future if they so choose. This is just an effort to fix things on the wikis where it's obviously wanted, so we have less people trying to remove links from this item.

(Less than halfway through, but I'm just gonna leave these here for the time being. I'll post on a noticeboard or two when I'm done with this whole thing, though if people want to get a head start on these, please do!)

As you can see, I've done this myself in wikis where I had the technical capability. However, in some cases the relevant page is fully protected, and in some it's semi-protected and I'm not yet autoconfirmed on the wiki, so if users with the applicable rights could handle these, that'd be great. — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 23:00, 9 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

OUPS... edit

I did a mistake ! I removed a few collumms on the board. -- Robby2-Darcoland (talk) 18:30, 18 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Don't worry, not so damaging. I restored links. --Stryn (talk) 18:36, 18 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thank you very much, and sorry. -- Robby2-Darcoland (talk) 17:52, 20 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Order; no edit rights edit

Would someone please sort the languages according to the depth of Wikipedias, but by always keeping the following ones at the top with this order (en: fr: de: it: el:), the rest sorted by their depth. You can ignore listing the Wikipedias with less than 10 thousand articles. At the end of the list link to the rest of Wikipedias with that phrase (باقى اللغات). Thanks. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 10:20, 8 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

It's not possible to change the order of interwiki links. They are always in alphabetical order. And this is not even correct place to ask it. --Stryn (talk) 10:50, 8 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Qáfar wikipedia edit

The Qafár wikipedia has been closed, please remove the link. KKoolstra (talk) 07:56, 12 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Edit war edit

Looks like here is an edit war about should we add aa-wiki here. It's not active wiki anymore, but still exists. Any thoughts should we include closed wikis also? Same with mh-wiki which is closed, and currently not included on this item. --Stryn (talk) 07:20, 6 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

The main page has no content; regular users cannot even view the source code. It seems pretty evident to me that it should not be included. It's not a real page. --Njardarlogar (talk) 09:30, 6 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
Without the link "List of values is complete." will be disappeared so I guess we shouldn't remove but I think this should be discussed that do we really need closed wikis links on Wikidata? –ebraminiotalk 05:26, 28 October 2013 (UTC)Reply
If someone really cares about aawiki, or any of the other closed projects, then this page could be directing him to the correct spot in the Incubator.
Varlaam (talk) 05:38, 28 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Item Q5296 description edit

Should the description maybe read "main page of a localized Wikipedia version", to underline that all linked pages talk about somewhat different things, and this is more of a meta-item ? --Pixelpapst (talk) 11:30, 7 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Should those things really be the same kind of entity? Seems to me this "item" is more of a disambiguation page with links to different Wikipedias, rather than something that represents a real-world entity... Littledogboy (talk) 10:05, 24 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

wikivoyage edit

Add wikivoyage main page please 109.151.161.64 18:31, 23 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Should we add Wikivoyage links to this item or make a new one for Wikivoyage main pages? Fi-wiki main page is called "Wikipedia:Etusivu", so also label is "Wikipedia:Etusivu"... --Stryn (talk) 18:51, 23 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
Ok, I went ahead and deleted the "Wikipedia"-namespace from the Finnish label. --Stryn (talk) 22:18, 23 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
I think we should create a new item for Wikivoyage main pages, as they describe different things. I created Q14223507, but cannot delete links here (as this page is protected), so somebody with proper permissions needs to transfer them. --Pixelpapst (talk) 06:52, 24 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
I would say that making a new item for Wikivoyage main page is a bad idea. They both describe main pages of a Wikimedia site, and it's clear to me that if a user wanted to travel from en.WikiVoyage to en.Wikipedia, he might want to do so. This would be the way to establish that linkage. (Consider that the sidebar UI may change in the future so that one can select both a project and a language.) --Izno (talk) 21:57, 24 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
"it's clear to me that if a user wanted to travel from en.WikiVoyage to en.Wikipedia, he might want to do so" - I disagree. Littledogboy is right above when he notes that even linking different language versions of "Main Page" together is a stretch. But at least they contain similar information ("This wikipedia has N articles." / "Featured articles today are..." etc.), so in the interest of keeping the sidebar as a convenient place to jump between language versions, I'm OK with this item's existance per se. _However_, jumping from en.wv:Main_Page to en.wp:Main_Page just is not a sensible use case, and, what's more important, this keeps us from keeping our data model clean. WD is about more than just inter-language links, it's a chance to really make the wikipedia projects part of the semantic web - if we take care to keep the data here high quality. --Pixelpapst (talk) 07:32, 25 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
Why else would we store the IW links in the same place for every other link but the main page? It's not clear to me how that is useful. In this case, it is quite clear that these are "main pages" -> entry points for a user. And in fact, to me the use case is trivial to understand as being valuable, and it doesn't seem to tarnish the data whatsoever.
I'm not sure I see the connection to the data model. If you are obliquely referring to the fact that there are certain items currently called "Wikipedia Category" (see also WD:PC#"Wikipedia disambiguation page" and "Wikipedia category"), those are trivially changed to indicate any category without disturbing the data model.
On top of which, the interconnection of the items is certainly of higher value. Again, think of the obvious UI improvement: someone is browsing any en.wiki page and wants to jump to something with more (or sometimes less) detail, perhaps in another language or another project. For every project, it is a net gain to be able to do so. (And I can state as a fact that many of the English articles already link in some way, shape, or form to external Wikimedia projects—see the various sister-project templates.) --Izno (talk) 22:26, 25 July 2013 (UTC)Reply
We need to expand the sphere of Wikivoyage by adding more languages here. I want to create Bn.Wikivoyage page. How can I do so?
               Thanks

My last eddit edit

Whoops, wrong button. I restored it. --Natuur12 (talk) 19:23, 23 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

lot of Wikisource main pages missing edit

Please add the missing Wikisource main pages. Currently there are 33 of them, there should be 64 according to Special:SiteMatrix. Thanks, Candalua (talk) 09:57, 15 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I gave you confirmed, so you should be able to now. --Rschen7754 10:04, 15 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. All done now. I skipped ang and ht because they are closed wikis; all other 62 are there. Candalua (talk) 10:18, 15 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Haitian also added. Anglo-Saxon looks hadn't creat main page so... This item will also useful for Incubator's Importers while both can be re-opened, and per Vogone's comment in the early archive.--Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 05:00, 16 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

ptwikiquote português edit

necessary edit of "Página Principal" for "Página principal". --Chico (talk) 14:15, 22 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Class vs instance edit

[1] - this is a class, not an instance. Tamawashi (talk) 20:10, 13 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Qáfar Wikipedia (again) edit

Many defunct projects are listed here.
Is that intentional, or just an oversight? Varlaam (talk) 05:34, 28 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Varlaam: IMO, we should start an RFC for the Notabilities of these closed wikis. My suggestion on this problem:   Oppose excluding closed wikis ONLY on this item,   Support (aka strongly discourage) for other items. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 06:56, 28 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
I have never started an RFC actually. What virtue do you see in keeping them around? If you follow them, you do get to the discussion of their closing which tends to have been in 2007 or 2008.
That is of interest to the more experienced editor, I suppose, but to the typical user, it misleads him about the number of projects which exist.
Muscogee was closed in 2007. It would never be opened nowadays.
Varlaam (talk) 03:54, 29 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Wikiquote edit

Wikiquote list results not complete because cr, na, za projects are no more active and have no pages. --FRacco (talk) 22:19, 28 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Subclass of Emmanuel NKUSI edit

Somehow, in this edit, the link text "home page" got replaced by "Emmanuel NKUSI". What is that and where is that text coming from? - dcljr (talk) 00:39, 2 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

I can't figure it out. In this edit, User:Emmankusi added that text, and supposedly it was removed in this undo, which seems impossible because that undo was for another user's edit, and somehow one undo reverted two edits by two separate users. That undo should not have been possible. It worked well enough to change the label on Q11439 on the page itself but not on this page or on Q16059613, yet somehow it is changed under similar circumstances on Q9732903. Weird... I can't help answer the question but I'll ping the development team with the above provided as some extra background info. --Haplology (talk) 00:58, 2 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
Old revisions (and diffs) are cached, that's why the wrong label got caught up there. Purging the old revision fixed it. Cheers, Hoo man (talk) 01:17, 2 December 2014 (UTC)Reply
Ha, I've also {{subst:uw-vand1}} him, but it means "I undid one or more of his recent contributions", which should be User:Gymel. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 09:09, 4 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

Aliases removed edit

User:Rzuwig has removed several English aliases[2], including one used by the mw:Pywikibot test suite. We can change the test suite [3], but why are those aliases being removed? John Vandenberg (talk) 23:22, 15 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

glkwiki edit

Stryn: Please add glk:گت ولگ. Mjbmr (talk) 12:14, 11 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

It is already there. --Stryn (talk) 13:42, 11 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Non-English versions of Main Page on "Other projects", where to go? edit

E.g. m:Hauptseite, m:Portada/es, mw:MediaWiki/es, m:Accueil, species:Accueil. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:30, 24 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

In the meantime, there is Database reports/Wikimedia multilingual project main pages,
see Translators' noticeboard#Fun new item: Wikimedia multilingual project main page (Q21450877). --- Jura 11:19, 15 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Removal of Marshallese Wikipedia link edit

Even though the Marshallese wiki's been closed, the link shouldn't be removed as it is still technically in the SiteMatrix. I can't edit it myself for some reason. TVShowFan122 (talk) 19:54, 29 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

add ady link edit

click link НэкӀубгъо шъхьаӀ. --Boxstools (talk) 09:12, 12 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

There seems to be some bug: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125501
--- Jura 16:18, 14 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
Added by me, thanks for requesting. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 14:03, 19 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

Time to add kbp:Talɩ ɖeu. Impossible for me either because of the usual problems with new wikis or because of the horrible JSness of this long page. Thanks for not pinging me in reply. --MF-W 00:18, 24 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

Closed projects edit

I don't think that it is useful to have closed projects in this list. So I have deleted all closed Wikipedias. --Holder (talk) 08:46, 20 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

I don't think they should be removed in general, but on the main page, there isn't much use for that.
--- Jura 10:46, 20 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

Outdated information should be deleted. Or there should be added links to similar resources like aucustomessays.com that may include needed information.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by RobertGarst (talk • contribs).

Maybe you will find Help:Ranks interesting. It explains how Wikidata handles outdated information.
--- Jura 15:39, 3 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

Santali Wikipedia edit

{{Edit request}}

Please add sat:ᱢᱩᱬᱩᱛ ᱥᱟᱦᱴᱟ thx. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:36, 4 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

  Done Matěj Suchánek (talk) 07:26, 4 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

Chinese Wikiversity edit

{{Edit request}}

Please add v:zh:首页 here. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:16, 6 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

  Done Lakokat 11:01, 6 August 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Lakokat: Pardon but as per page history, they moved this page from main namespace to project namespace, so please change it to "Wikiversity:首页". --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:01, 9 August 2018 (UTC)Reply
  Done Lakokat 04:08, 9 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

Cantonese Wiktionary and Shan Wikipedia edit

{{Edit request}} Please add wikt:yue:頭版 and shn:ၼႃႈႁူဝ်ႁႅၵ်ႈ thx. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:43, 15 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Liuxinyu970226 those 2 projects do not seem to be recognized by wikidata. --Jarekt (talk) 14:38, 28 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
Stale. please restore once issue is corrected. --Jarekt (talk) 02:58, 18 December 2018 (UTC)Reply
Done by self now. Also thx to @Ninjastrikers: added shnwiki link. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 15:03, 7 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Sl.wiktionary edit

Sl.wiktionary link is properly added, but the wikt:sl:Main Page doesn't want to show interwiki links and Wikidata item link. Any idea? --Janezdrilc (talk) 23:35, 15 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Janezdrilc: To hide interwiki links, just use {{Noexternallanglinks}}, but I doubt if this can also hide "Wikidata item" one. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 14:50, 17 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
PS: It's by design not possible to see "Wikidata item" sidebar link on Wiktionary ns:0 pages, because their iwlinks are provided by the Cognate extension, not sure why you've seen that. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 14:53, 17 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
The problem is that it is not showing up, which is weird. I checked all templates used on the home page, but there is nothing that could override the IW-links. Maybe track it in phab? Q.Zanden questions? 23:42, 5 May 2019 (UTC)Reply
By asking Wiktionaries, I think we need a new section to handle them. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:35, 3 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

la.wikiquote edit

{{Editprotected}} Main Page of la.wikiquote.org is m:q:la:Pagina_prima not the Category. Could somebody correct that. -- Nesmir Kudilovič (razgovor) 03:18; subota, 22. februara 2020. (SEV)

  Done --DannyS712 (talk) 03:02, 22 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

en.wikipedia edit

{{Edit request}} There appears to be no entry for the Main Page of English Wikipedia, as a result of which, following the interwiki from another language Wikipedia results in an error (empty category: page; presumably it's reaching for this category). I looked for the usual link to add an interwiki but none is present, so I came here and searched instead. Someone has signaled the problem at en:Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#broken ill. Please create an item. Yngvadottir (talk) 18:49, 18 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Already fixed per w:en:Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1047#broken illMJLTalk 18:33, 3 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Talking about Wiktionaries edit

Say something really from my heart, any ways except "nothing to do" or modifying the policies will need many major works on codes.

Per WD:N:

This means that this item Q5296, the one to store links to main pages of each projects, is strong affected because of these links (as of 17 March 2021):

Click [expand] to view the content

What to to with them? Are they safety to move to their Project: namespaces? (Note that I would not interested in multiple pings pings pings... for all of them, means, I will only do so for some, when indeed necessary) --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 13:03, 3 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

  • There are some technical changes needed before moving the main page to the project namespace. I documented the process here, but I'm not sure if this is even possible. Some, perhaps many, Wiktionaries don't have local interface admins, but there should be at least one interface admin for this process to work. We might still be able to inform every local administrator familiar with the English language so that they can propose this change to their local communities. Interface editors can then finish the technical side, which is editing MediaWiki:Common.css and MediaWiki:Common.js, if the local communities agree. This, however, will most likely take some time. Ahmadtalk 05:01, 5 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
About Wikimedia main page (Q5296): I am sysop on eo wikt and actually I have disliked the main page in NS 0. I am willing to move it to the internal/project NS 4. But there are no interface admins on eo wikt and I have very limited skills about JS. So if JS adjustments are needed then eo wikt will need help from a steward. Having main pages of all wiki projects in same NS is ultimately desirable. Taylor 49 (talk) 07:10, 5 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
  Done EO wiktionary done. Taylor 49 (talk) 10:56, 13 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for the step-by-step guide. I hope you don't mind but I have documented it and accredited the process to you on the following page: Wiktionary - missing language sitelinks. Danny Benjafield (WMDE) (talk) 10:17, 5 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Liuxinyu970226: We are agreed in Arabic Wiktionary, so we moved the main page from main namespace to project namespace, while keeping redirection, check Wikimedia main page (Q5296). Thank you for this topic. الناجم العاجم، Najem Ajem () 17:13, 6 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Liuxinyu970226: I ask around in huwikt and will move if nobody objects. -grin 18:29, 12 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Huwiki's done. -- grin 18:29, 12 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Isn't this something that should rather be solved by MW's developers? If there is a problem with Wiktionary's Main page being in NS 0, then, as others have raised the point, maybe all projects' Main pages should be relocated to another NS? Otherwise Wiktionary will become a special case and special cases always mean more trouble, at the very least because you must remember the exception (“Oh, I completely forgot that Wiktionary's Main page was not like the others—that's why I was banging my head on this problem for days!”) If moving all Main pages is undesirable, then maybe we should ask ourselves if we really need Wiktionary Main pages to be linked to WD at all. From a cost-benefit analysis perspective, I find them becoming unlinked as the lesser evil compared to moving the Main pages of tens, if not hundreds, of projects and having to deal with all the expected and unforeseen consequences. I believe the Main page nowadays isn't as critical as it was in the times of en:WP:DDMP, but it would be nice if someone confirms what exactly would be the consequences of moving it today and what specifically would need to be done besides the moving itself (I see people mentioning some JS work—and that can get complex very easily, so we must know what exactly is involved).
    — Luchesar • T/C 13:04, 12 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
FWIW, my colleague Ted Masters, who nowadays does most maintenance on bgwikt, was very kind to take a look at the issue, so we'll most likely also follow suit with the moving of the Main page to NS 4 (unless someone else objects, but I doubt it).
— Luchesar • T/C 19:09, 12 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

I started a discussion at the Vietnamese Wiktionary about the proposed move. Several gadgets, scripts, and styles will need to be updated, and there's already a page at wikt:vi:Wiktionary:Trang Chính that's about the main page, showcasing the various designs over the years. – Minh Nguyễn 💬 06:23, 14 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

  Comment Of the meta Wiktionary top 10 Wiktionaries, Russian one has been affected, @AKA MBG, Al Silonov, Bookvaedina, Cinemantique, DonRumata: and @Infovarius, Lingüista, MaksOttoVonStirlitz, Valentin Ko, Vitalik: and @Weldis, Wesha: any ideas about moving wikt:ru:Заглавная страница or not? I also have no idea if we oppose moving the Russian one. --223.104.228.7 11:12, 14 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
In ru: I've started this discussion and the idea of moving the main page (Заглавная страница) to the Project: namspace (Викисловарь:) met no objections. We are ready to make the change. --Al Silonov (talk) 11:41, 14 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
Thx. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 07:59, 15 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
For Ukrainian you can ask @Ahonc:, for Serbo-croatian you may ask @OC Ripper, Kolega2357: for Turkish you may ask @HastaLaVi2, Sabri76, Turgut46, Uncitoyen:, for Serbian @Aca, FriedrickMILBarbatossa, Kizule:, but for Italian I'm not sure @Buggia, Wim b: will agree you or not. --223.104.228.7 11:28, 14 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
Warned, we await the opinion of the community --93.34.214.52 20:16, 16 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
the it.wiki community believes it will not move the main page for the reason given. --Wim b 17:58, 24 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
Two more done: -id- and -jv-. Taylor 49 (talk) 15:14, 24 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Liuxinyu970226: I recently collected information regarding the status-quo of Wiktionaries that transitioned into the Project namespace and have edited / added them to your above expandable section.Danny Benjafield (WMDE) (talk) 10:22, 5 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Syriac (syc)? edit

Syriac wikitext? wikipedia? if not, why not? Pashute (talk) 20:00, 9 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Because, eh, we don't have a sycwiki at the moment? FWIW contents in syc are de facto located at arcwiki. See also this Phabricator task. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:03, 18 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

shnwikivoyage edit

{{Editprotected}} Please add shnwikivoyage to the list. Ата talk 17:25, 2 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

blkwiki blk:အဓိကလိတ်မဲ့ငါ edit

Do we know when we can add this link? Recently I tried and says siteID blkwiki is unknown. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:09, 7 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

List of languages Hebrew Wiktionary edit

For an unknown reason, the list of languages does not appear on the main page of the Hebrew Wiktionary. I tried clearing the cache, editing the page and more, and nothing worked.

Thanks in advance to the helpers. Ariel1024 (talk) 16:25, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Ariel1024: Hi, this is because of phab:T210784. Pages in the main namespace on Wiktionary get their links from the Cognate extension instead of from Wikidata items. I would advice you to consider moving the main page to something like "Wiktionary:Main Page" (but in Hebrew, of course), like many other projects already have. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 20:33, 12 October 2022 (UTC)Reply
  Done, Thank you. Ariel1024 (talk) 08:06, 14 October 2022 (UTC)Reply
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