Talk:Q5705

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Joan Gené in topic Confusion

Autodescription — Catalonia (Q5705)

description: autonomous community and nationality of Spain
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Historical nationality edit

For those interested. Using the term "Historical nationality" (which is more a political term designed for papers and political propaganda than something real) as a real administrative status is a serious error, or just an interested manipulation. That's why I deleted it, taking in account other similar cases as shown in Galicia or País Vasco's wikidata infoboxes.--Manuchansu (talk) 17:59, 16 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Block edit

Can some admin please block the page for registered editors? Many changes expected during next ours or days, as a new disputed territory. Thanks in advance!--ÀlexHinojo (talk) 14:52, 27 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

  Done for a month--Ymblanter (talk) 11:16, 28 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

Protected edit request edit

{{Editprotected}} Please add se:Kataloniija to the Wikipedia sitelinks. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:41, 28 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

  Done--Ymblanter (talk) 11:59, 28 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

Presidencia edit

Carles Puigdemont no debería figurar a estas alturas como presidente de Cataluña[1] al amparo de la Orden PRA/1034/2017, de 27 de octubre,[2] en aplicación del artículo nº 155 de la Constitución española de 1978.[3] Jcfidy (talk) 11:51, 28 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

  1. lamoncloa.goc.es, «Rajoy anuncia el cese de Puigdemont y su Gobierno y la convocatoria de elecciones autonómicas en Cataluña el 21 de diciembre». Consultado el 27 de octubre de 2017.
  2. Boletín Oficial del Estado, 27 de octubre de 2017.
  3. Diario ABC (ed.). "Rajoy fulmina a Puigdemont y a todos los consejeros y convoca elecciones autonómicas el 21 de diciembre".=27 de octubre de 2017}}
Soy abriera una discusion a Wikidata:Project chat#Q5705--Ymblanter (talk) 12:05, 28 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

Subreddit edit

For someone who can edit this: ad subreddit catalonia. --Walter Klosse (talk) 15:54, 29 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Walter Klosse:: I can edit, but could you please be a bit less cryptic? Thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:26, 29 October 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Ymblanter: less cryptic: could you add
⟨ Catalonia (Q5705)      ⟩ subreddit (P3984)   ⟨ catalonia ⟩
. VIGNERON (talk) 10:07, 4 November 2017 (UTC)Reply
  Done added (without angular brackets) @VIGNERON: pls check, I can correct if needed.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:14, 4 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Protected edit request (2) edit

{{Editprotected}} Please ‎changed link ko:카탈루냐 지방 to ko:카탈루냐. -- Sangjinhwa (talk) 11:30, 30 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Sangjinhwa:, this is not possible since there is another Korean article already liked to the item. Could you please have a look. Thanks.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:51, 30 October 2017 (UTC)Reply
I didn't got an error, and 카탈루냐 지방 was a redirect from the move anyway.   Done! — regards, Revi 15:31, 30 October 2017 (UTC)Reply

Protected edit request (3) edit

{{Editprotected}} Please ‎changed link ia:Communitate Autonome Catalonia to ia:Catalonia (and change the interlingua label from "Communitate Autonome Catalonia" to "Catalonia"). Thanks! —Tortoise0308 (talk) 02:21, 5 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

  Done--Ymblanter (talk) 02:55, 5 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Protected edit request (4) edit

{{Editprotected}} Please move vi:Catalonia to vi:Catalunya as viwiki uses Catalan name, not English name.Hugopako (talk) 16:00, 11 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

  Done--Ymblanter (talk) 16:07, 11 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

Status quo edit

Does it exist now from PoV of Catalan Republic (Q138837)? --Infovarius (talk) 20:33, 7 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

Well, we obviously have two sets of Wikipedia articles.--Ymblanter (talk) 22:15, 8 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

Description in Catalan edit

I've seen that the usual description in Catalan for this item (which used to be "país de la Mediterrània occidental constituït com a comunitat autònoma d'Espanya") has been changed with comment (in Spanish) "no es un país". This seems to be a translation problem, since the definition for the word "país" is diferent in Catalan and in Spanish. In Catalan we could say that Catalonia is "país" according to the word's definition (see the offical Catalan dictionary [1], which uses as exemple for the word "Catalunya és un país muntanyós" or the article for Catalonia in main encyclopedia written in Catalan: [2]).

So, as shown, the definition for the word "país" in Catalan fits perfectly for Catalonia. Probably the rollbacks by Jcfidy and Leoncastro are due to a misunderstanding between Catalan and Spanish words.

--Pau Colominas (can I help you?) 13:12, 22 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

Yes. I think it's good to clear up the nuances between the Spanish and Catalan meanings of país, thanks.--Leptictidium (talk) 13:17, 22 December 2017 (UTC)Reply
Hello. I think that the Catalan description "comunitat autònoma d'Espanya" is better. It is neutral, because the other autonomous communities of Spain have this Catalan description. Moreover, the goal of a Wikidata description is to disambiguate items, not to add confusion. Regards --NicoScribe (talk) 10:50, 24 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

Confusion edit

It confuses the autonomous community of Catalonia, which excludes the French department of East Pyrenees, the state of Andorra, the Franja de Ponent and includes the Vall d'Aran; with the country of Catalonia, which might include the Franja and Andorra and exclude the Vall d'Aran but it certainly includes the French department. The autonomous community and the country and the historical nationality should totally be different items. Joan Gené (talk) 16:56, 17 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

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