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GAN (talkcontribs)

Only for topics related to cycling. The rest are not interested. After the bot transfers the parameters from individual statements to the qualifiers sports season of league or competition (P3450), the navigation to the extreme tournaments flies into the cards.

Matěj Suchánek (talkcontribs)
GAN (talkcontribs)

Good. But then another moment. The World Championship is not a “season”, but a separate tournament. This parameter changes your other MatSuBot bot. As a result, this is the edit of the first bot.

Matěj Suchánek (talkcontribs)

I'm trying to understand what mistake was done. If I take 2007 UCI Road World Championships (Q36854) as an example, it's an event in the series of UCI Road World Championships (Q506424), ie. "edition" or "season" of it. So sports season of league or competition (P3450): UCI Road World Championships (Q506424) fits there and both 2006 UCI Road World Championships (Q698491) and 2008 UCI Road World Championships (Q36969) are the next and previous events in the series.

(Note that I do not own this bot.)

GAN (talkcontribs)

The question is this. By what criteria is the parameter added to the element (P3450)? After which the movement of P155 and P | 156 occurs.

Here, the problem is probably not in the chain, but in determining the season, tournament, championship.

Example. World Cup Biathlon. Season consists of stages, which consist of racing. It takes place in different places. The winner of the World Cup or the season in a certain year.

World Cycling Championship. The title is played in one race during the day. Season can last one day? Or the World Cup - we do not say that the team became the winner in this season

And such a moment. It is much more convenient to use certain parameters from VD in article cards. Than them but in the form of qualifiers.

Psemdel (talkcontribs)

I say as GAN that a world championship is not a season. In cycling a season = year, nothing more. It is an edition, that we agree. But a season is not an edition. Please revert all those changes, all those races are now badly displayed on several Wikipedia. And no P3450 is not correct as it is not a season.


Matěj Suchánek (talkcontribs)

"season" here actually is another word for "edition". Anyway, before reverting I have to warn you that eventually another user may attempt to clean up this again. Reverting also means that you would rely on values of P31 which again may break as the classification on Wikidata may evolve, that's why there is P3450. So wouldn't it be more advantageous to look into fixing the "article card" (it took me a while to understand what it means), as I did when I was notified on my wiki?

Psemdel (talkcontribs)

I just don't get why the items for cycling have to evolve because of some "evolution" decided from someone who has no link to cycling. Can you show us where is the guideline/decision to use P3450?


Matěj Suchánek (talkcontribs)
Psemdel (talkcontribs)

Thank you.

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