User:Thibdx/Materials properties proposal
Ultimate tensile strengthEdit
This proprety request is part of the project of creating an infobox for materials.
- Support, but temperature (P2076) should be a mandatory qualifier, property cannot be limited to room temperature only. Wostr (talk) 23:20, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- Support ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:52, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- Support David (talk) 09:18, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
- Support Dhx1 (talk) 15:50, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
- Support Djhé (talk) 06:34, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
This proprety request is part of the project of creating an infobox for materials from the french Wikipedia : related discussion. It is a first attemp on material proprety creation on Wikidata. Other material propreties will be proposed if a consensus is reached on this one. Thibdx (talk) 21:19, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- Support --Djhé (talk) 14:07, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- Support David (talk) 14:57, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- Support yes definitely - somehow I thought we already had this! ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:43, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- Support, but this property should have temperature (P2076) as a mandatory qualifier; it cannot be limited to room temperature only. Maybe some other qualifiers should also be allowed? Wostr (talk) 23:15, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Solutions regarding temperature :
- We can consider that if the temperature is not specified, the value refers to room temperature. This is the common use.
- We can add temperature as a mandatory qualifier and the norm used for the test as an optional qualifier. (optional because it is not easy to use).
- We have similar solution in pl.wiki regarding chemical compounds – if conditions are not specified then it's 25 Celsius/1000 hPa. I don't think this is the best approach here in WD. For the second, you can use determination method (P459). Wostr (talk) 12:29, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- determination method (P459) seems to be perfect.
- On some datasheet the temperature is not specified. Then the user don't know since it depends on the country : w:Standard conditions for temperature and pressure. This is not really important except if the material is something like chocolate acutally. Anyway, It's a detail, most users are smart enough to put something between 20 and 25°C if there is only "room temperature". It can be a mandatory parameter if no one is against this. --Thibdx (talk) 15:25, 13 July 2018 (UTC)