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Best regards! Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 05:19, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Not applicable to Wikidata

Hoi, what made you decide that people are not applicable to Wikidata in Mix n' match? We can and should include imho entries for all of them because all of the people in there should be included including the works in the BHL.. What do you think? Thanks, GerardM (talk) 12:52, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi GerardM, feel free to revert any that I've classed as "not applicable" if you think they are notable for Wikidata purposes. Most I classed as "not applicable" were folk I had difficulty in finding other identifiers for or only wrote one article that to me appeared not notable. Best, --Ambrosia10 (talk) 07:28, 22 November 2017 (UTC)@ambrosia10

I am preparing the import of the publications themselves and, I am not aware about the relative merits of the authors.. But it does make sense to have them all.. PS thank you for the good work :) Thanks, GerardM (talk) 09:09, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata:WikiProject New Zealand/Participants

Hello. Maybe you'd like to add your name to this list – without the signature – so that I'm not left alone there? You'll be pinged every time someone uses the template during a discussion about New Zealand. Thierry Caro (talk) 23:04, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. Have added myself to the list. --Ambrosia10 (talk) 06:04, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Q58099149

The place of death you entered was the house not the place (town/village). In a source I found [1] "Lewes Castle, Stornoway, Isle of Lewis, Scotland", Q386703 Lewes Castle used by you is "a medieval castle in the town of Lewes in East Sussex, England". It is fixed but if you used a bot it may be others that have simular issues. Maundwiki (talk) 13:09, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Maundwiki: Thanks for letting me know. I was editing manually, not with a bot, so hopefully this will be the only error made. I had assumed the place of death could be as specific as the house/castle where the person died. I was thinking of specific SPARQL queries such as "names of people who died at Lewes Castle". However if you believe that this is modelled incorrectly, with the addition of Lewes Castle as the place of death, I am very happy to be corrected.-Ambrosia10 (talk) 17:44, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Q386703 was in Englanmd not Scottland, if you have a correct castle/house I have no problem with that. Maundwiki (talk) 02:03, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

DigitalNZ ID

Maybe easier to bring this on-wiki. I see you're already familiar with property proposals, so maybe just have a go and I'm happy to fix up any missed fields? Or I can make it if you prefer? The only trick I've noticed with this set is that the long title suffix of the URLs is unnecessary:

• https://digitalnz.org/records/32102810/the-alphabet-a-grammar-and-vocabulary-of-the-language-of-new-zealand
• https://digitalnz.org/records/32102810/

resolve to the same page. So the easiest identifier is to use the second format, and simply use the number. --99of9 (talk) 11:51, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Same with the Christchurch Art Gallery for that matter:

• https://christchurchartgallery.org.nz/collection/2015019/
• https://christchurchartgallery.org.nz/collection/2015019/andre-hemer/new-representation-2

also go to the same place. Here's an Art Gallery one I proposed earlier: Wikidata:Property_proposal/Art_Gallery_of_South_Australia_work_ID which you could copy from. --99of9 (talk) 12:04, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

@99of9: Ok. Let me jump in and attempt it myself. Knowing you'll be there to clean up any errors is VERY reassuring! I'll work on this this morning and see how I go! Ambrosia10 (talk) 19:05, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Good job! From your Twitter screenshot, a couple of changes: Data type should be external-id . String is for properties like "title", or "common name" where the value could be any sequence of words, letters, numbers, punctuation. Second, where you put <DigitalNZ identifier>, you can just leave the little forward arrow that the template used. Finally, the values in the example should just be the (hyperlinked) number we will store (e.g. 37896844), rather than the full URL. Your formatter URL has already told us how to construct the full URL from this number. --99of9 (talk)

Ah, I see that two of these issues came from the Europeana ID proposal you were copying from. It's interesting that things have shifted so much since 2013! And tbh the definitions at Help:Data_type do not really give guidance about what to do if your ID is both an external ID and a string! --99of9 (talk) 22:24, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

@99of9: OK, it is live but I'm pretty sure I've stuffed up while transcluding it. Just hoping others can fix my basic mistakes. Ambrosia10 (talk) 22:53, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Nice one. You have my support. Yes there was an extra heading added while transcluding, but that was easily fixed. The proposal itself was great. I added a regex (which is often left to those who do regex), and chose an item to represent your domain so that non-English speakers will see their translation. Otherwise perfect. --99of9 (talk) 00:24, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks so much as you've been an absolute data rockstar helping me and being so supportive. Doubt I would have been brave enough to do this otherwise! Ambrosia10 (talk) 00:34, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

New page for catalogues

Hi, I created a new page for collecting sites that could be added to Mix'n'match and I plan to expand it with the ones that already have scrapers by category. Feel free to expand, use for property creation. Best, --Adam Harangozó (talk) 12:02, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for participating in the FindingGLAMs Challenge!

	Thank you for participating in the FindingGLAMs Challenge!
	By improving information about GLAM institutions on Wikidata, you made the Wikimedia projects better for everyone! Alicia Fagerving (WMSE) (talk) 14:24, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

A French botanical collector

Hello,

would you like to have a look at Q94966585? I'm currently trying to create more items about Société d'étude des sciences naturelles de Nîmes (Q46730069)-related people, but can't see how to fill in the one about a French botanical collector— nor how to create another one about is herbarium (Q181916) (in case it is relevant)...

Best,

86.193.172.227 22:10, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Undo

Hallo Ambrosia10, sorry for this undo. I mixed up the IDs. --Kolja21 (talk) 08:24, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

New Zealand type specimens

Hi, as you are interested in New Zealand biodoversity, you may be interested by that query that gives you all the images depicting (depicts (P180)) items of type specimens stored in the Auckland Museum and in the Te Papa Tongarewa. Of course the list is far from exaustive because all files are not tagued and not all type specimens have an item. Christian Ferrer (talk) 21:42, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

#defaultView:ImageGrid

SELECT ?file ?image ?stype ?stypeLabel ?collec ?collecLabel ?role ?roleLabel ?de ?deLabel
with {
  select ?stype ?stypeLabel ?collec ?collecLabel ?role ?de ?roleLabel ?deLabel {
   service <https://query.wikidata.org/sparql> {
     select ?stype ?stypeLabel ?collec ?collecLabel ?role ?de ?roleLabel ?deLabel { 
       ?stype wdt:P31/wdt:P279* wd:Q51255340 
       SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }
       optional {
         ?stype wdt:P195 ?collec .
       }
       ?stype p:P2868 [ps:P2868 ?role ; pq:P642 ?de] .
       values ?collec {
        wd:Q16949336 # Auckland Institute and Museum 
        wd:Q915603 # Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tongarewa
       }
     }
   }
  }
} as %types
WHERE {
  ?file wdt:P180 ?stype ; schema:contentUrl ?url .
  
  bind(iri(concat("http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:FilePath/", replace(substr(str(?url),53),"_","%20"))) AS ?image) .
  
  #?file wdt:P180  wd:Q105607273  .
  include %types
}

Try it!

@Christian Ferrer: Thanks so much for that query. ThIt will be very useful. -Ambrosia10 (talk) 23:36, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

New Zealand protected areas

I did some programming and processing yesterday and I think I'm just about ready to import all the NZ scenic reserves (currently 8%, see New Zealand protected areas), the conservation parks, national parks, scientific reserves and some of the smaller areas to Wikidata. I thought I would let you know as it looks like you are doing some work with adding iNaturalist IDs and the DoC catalogue (I can add these for the import). Give me a day or two and I'll let you know how it goes. I also did the heritage list address/description fixes for User:Schwede66! --Canley (talk) 04:19, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

That is fabulous news Canley! I've just imported some (but by no means all) NZ reserves today. They are very basic items as I'm hoping others would help flesh them out. My intention was to enable folk to work on adding iNaturalist place ids to those items during an upcoming Wikipedia Weekly event. Thanks so much for your efforts working on these data. I'm also planning on bringing the fact that these New Zealand protected areas items are being added and expanded in Wikidata to the attention of the Aotearoa User Group. There are some folk there who are keen photographers and with these items being created and hopefully coordinate locations being added, these folk will the be encouraged to take images via WikiShootMe. - Ambrosia10 (talk) 04:44, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

That's stunning. Thank you so much! Schwede66 (talk) 09:30, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Evelyn Moore

Hi there - just wondering if you've come across an Evelyn Moore illustrator. See this page and others in the same publication: https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/5083405. Friesen5000 (talk) 17:13, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

No I haven't! She isn't on my spreadsheet where I track scientific illustrators and I can't find her on the Stuttgart Scientific Illustrator database. I'll add her to my spreadsheet and wikidata and hopefully more information about her will be added. I'll have a look and see what I can find from my normal sources. Thanks for the tip! Ambrosia10 (talk) 18:29, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Carrie Harrison

Please, see [2] - "archives at" linked page was deleted at the source. Can you update or change this link? Thanks --Ooligan (talk) 00:15, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

I've tried but unfortunately I'm unable find a replacement for that reference. -Ambrosia10 (talk) 00:27, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Call for participation in a task-based online experiment

Dear Ambrosia10,

I hope you are doing good,

I am Kholoud, a researcher at King's College London, and I work on a project as part of my PhD research, in which I have developed a personalised recommender system that suggests Wikidata items for the editors based on their past edits. I am collaborating on this project with Elena Simperl and Miaojing Shi.

I am inviting you to a task-based study that will ask you to provide your judgments about the relevance of the items suggested by our system based on your previous edits. Participation is completely voluntary, and your cooperation will enable us to evaluate the accuracy of the recommender system in suggesting relevant items to you. We will analyse the results anonymised, and they will be published to a research venue.

The study will start in late January 2022 or early February 2022, and it should take no more than 30 minutes.

If you agree to participate in this study, please either contact me at kholoud.alghamdi@kcl.ac.uk or use this form https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSees9WzFXR0Vl3mHLkZCaByeFHRrBy51kBca53euq9nt3XWog/viewform?usp=sf_link I will contact you with the link to start the study.

For more information about the study, please read this post: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Kholoudsaa In case you have further questions or require more information, don't hesitate to contact me through my mentioned email.

Thank you for considering taking part in this research.

Regards

Kholoudsaa (talk) 21:01, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Wrong author ?

Hi,

I was doing a SPARQL demo about bibliographical and biographical data. I was looking for publications published before the author was born (as an example of query to check the quality of the data), I stumble upon this item D. Marcus Elieser Bloch's, ausübenden Arztes zu Berlin ... Ökonomische Naturgeschichte der Fische Deutschlands : mit sieben und dreyssig Kupfertafeln nach Originalen (Q56671860) (from 1783) where you added Spencer Fullerton Baird (Q14049) (1823-1887) as the author (Special:Diff/1500513276). Could you take a look and do the correction? (I suspect the item was wrong even before your edit but I don't have the time nor the knowledge to fix it).

Cdlt, VIGNERON en résidence (talk) 12:41, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

PS: same thing for D. Marcus Elieser Bloch's, ausübenden Arztes zu Berlin ... Naturgeschichte der ausländischen Fische .. (Q56671862)

Hi VIGNERON en résidence, you are completely correct. That is very wrong. I have no idea what happened! I'll correct it and improve it now. I'll also sort out the engravers and illustrators as much as I can. Thanks for letting me know. - Ambrosia10 (talk)

"Partner in business or sport" rather than "significant person"

As you can see in Thomas Albert Williams (Q6146014) I changed the values you had defined as significant person (P3342) to partner in business or sport (P1327). I think this is a more specific and appropriate property for these links. 1Veertje (talk) 08:36, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

I can understand your justification for doing so @1Veertje, however I am unsure whether I agree with you. The reason I say this is that the property "partner in business or sport" seems to me to be based on remuneration for labour, that is related to monetary gain for labour provided. Two out of the three co-collectors (his wife and his sister in law) are not connected with Williams either as a professional partner in a business that remunerates them for their labour, nor would I class their collecting as a sport. However it may be that you are correct in using this property as collectors when they work together are often called a collecting team. As such I'm content to leave this item as you have edited it. - ~~~ Ambrosia10 (talk) 08:49, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Double checking conflict of interest declarations.

Hello! Just wanted to let you know that the Wikidata project at the Royal Botanic Gardens Victoria, to add details of women collectors and scientists, has started. We were hoping for a second opinion about if we were clearly indicating a conflict of interest on our project page Wikidata:WikiProject RBGV National Herbarium of Victoria (MEL) Collectors and on user pages (eg. User:Drechmeria-RBGV.) If you could give it a quick look, it would be really appreciated.

Drechmeria-RBGV (talk) 22:28, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Drechmeria-RBGV

I think what you've done is transparent and easy for other editors to understand both on your project page and on your user page. I'm aware Te Papa staff including botany staff are currently getting more involved in editing Wikipedia and Wikidata. If you want to have a look at how Te Papa staff have "done" conflict of interest statements have a look the Wikidata page of @Einebillion. Because she edits on multiple Wiki platforms she sends folk to her main information page on Wikipedia and gives a full conflict of interest statement there. See this page. You don't have to replicate their template but I do like the wording of their statement, particularly the encouragement to reach out if there may be a perceived conflict of interest.

Good luck for your project. I'm aware that I and other editors in Wikidata have been working on getting women collectors from all over the world, including Australia, into Wikidata. Hopefully this will help make your work a little easier as there will be existing items for these women. I'm also currently chipping away at my own project, adding or linking botanical collectors that Te Papa have on their Collections Online platform to Wikidata items. Here's hoping there will be some cross over between our two projects. Good luck and please keep reaching out as I'm very keen to help. Ambrosia10 (talk) 22:46, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Ah, now that is an excellent conflict of interest declaration! That is exactly the sort of wording I was wondering about. Thank-you so much for the pointer.

I am sure we will bump into each other (I've already come across a number of Wikidata entries you had already started), and my fingers are crossed that our rather small project here blossoms into something larger.

Drechmeria-RBGV (talk) 23:34, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Just to clarify - I set up the Te Papa user template page to ensure that Te Papa staff had consistent messaging when editing while working. The information for staff is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Museum_of_New_Zealand_Te_Papa_Tongarewa/Staff_Contribution_Policy_and_Editing_Help Einebillion (talk) 22:38, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Name fixes just for the English language?

Hi Ambrosia,

it is not OK to import wrong name froms to all languages, but just fix them for English. Example: Katia Pereira Coelho (Q116872710)

Kind regards-- Northern Illinois Bottlecap Balloon Brigade (talk) 10:30, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. That item was created automatically via the mix'n'match dataset when I pressed the "create new item" button which automatically imports labels of the item. The rest of the edits I undertake on items created like the item you have suggested I undertaken manually, not in bulk and I am attempting to do my best. I only speak English and that is what is displayed to me when I edit. I don't normally see the other language labels created when I edit. As a result of not speaking other languages I have left it up to the automatic import to add what other language labels for the item it wishes. I regard it as more important work to get these people actually into Wikidata, adding statements in the item for their name and linked to their BHL identifier and as a result to their contributions, and then manually add any further statements I can so that others can then improve on the item. In my view this is more important than spending my time correcting capitalisation manually in languages I don't speak. Wikidata is a wiki. Other editors and most especially Bots are working on these items all the time. Of course please feel free to spend your time correcting the other language labels manually should you wish or alternatively request a bot be made to assist you in this work. Any improvements to items created via Mix'n'match would be very gratefully received. Ambrosia10 (talk) 18:01, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Latest batch

Hi Ambrosia10, please take time to review your latest batch(es), as you changed a lot of labels and descriptions and most of it was unwarranted or contradict current usage: 1, 2, 3, 4, etc. It's usually a bad idea to replace labels and descriptions from other databases. --Jahl de Vautban (talk) 07:33, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the message @Jahl de Vautban I've halted the batch and will work on attempting to correct it tomorrow. Appreciate the message letting me know. Ambrosia10 (talk) 07:41, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi, sorry to reaching you again, but it seems some problems still persist : 1, 2, 3 ; in some cases, like here, you are replacing the label with a string that was already an alias, so the previous label is lost. For the Qid where you have a match (as opposed to the new elements you are creating), I would advise not to touch the label. --Jahl de Vautban (talk) 21:02, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Don't apologise for reaching out, I really appreciate it. Over the next few days I'm going to go through all the items I've edited and will manually correct/improve the labels, aliases and the items. I don't want to revert the batches as I've created new items within it which I intend to work on. Sorry to cause such trouble. I'll start working on it now. Ambrosia10 (talk) 21:14, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

I should make you aware of why I'm attempting to do this work. There is work being done to create a digital version of Taxonomic literature : a selective guide to botanical publications and collections with dates, commentaries and types, ed. 2 (usually abbreviated TL-2) see https://tl2.io/Front+matter/Introduction. Because I've done quite a bit of work on disambiguating botanists listed in the Harvard Index of Botanists via the mix'n'match dataset I was given a dataset of botanical authors whom have yet to be linked to in this rapidly improving digital resource. I'm also aware of other folk using Wikidata, the Harvard Index of Botanists and the Biodiversity Heritage Library creator ids to link botanists and botanical authors to their publications and also the specimens they have collecting. I'm very keen not just to link these Wikidata items but also to make sure the Wikidata labels are sufficient to easily disambiguate these people. I recognise my batches are not ideal but I will be working through each item to fix the issues I've created so hopefully by the time I'm finished the items will be more improved than when I started. Thanks again for reaching out and please let me know if you have any other concerns. Ambrosia10 (talk) 23:08, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the lenghty explanation; I also read the paper that you shared on the Telegram group. I remember having been interested (mainly for mythical women, as I’m a classicist) in the project when it appeared in a Wikidata weekly summary some long time ago, so I can only commend you and the other researchers involved for the work done. Still, I feel than replacing labels should really be avoided in favour of adding an alias; that way you can still use it to disambiguate people if needed and you or other can choose to change the main label at a later time. My main concern is that you are using BHL today, but tomorrow someone might use an other ressource and we´ll only end up going back and forth, replacing and losing bits of information. The same goes with descriptions, only that there isn’t an « alternative description » field. If you’re going to review every author you contributed to then fine, but that will take you quite some time and probably that’s not really interesting nor fun to do. —-Jahl de Vautban (talk) 07:30, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words. Actually I'm having a lovely time, deep diving into the lives of these amazing people, adding data to their items, connecting them to their works, particularly to specimens collected and institutions that hold their collections, as well as to other external to Wikidata identifiers. I'm especially enjoying it as I know this work will feed into not just the TL-2 project but also the Natural History Museum Planetary Knowledge Base as well as the Nicky Nicholson's echinopscis project to name but a few. Ambrosia10 (talk) 18:13, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Jules Girard

Hi! Since you are working closely with BHL, I wonder if perhaps you can have a mistake corrected? Currently 127075 links to Jules Girard (Q1364415) and assumes also its date of birth and death and VIAF cluster, whereas it should link to Jules Girard (Q15257795). Thanks! --Jahl de Vautban (talk) 08:50, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Jahl de Vautban, thanks for pointing this out. It looks like both Jules Girards you've mentioned have BHL creator ids - so I've made sure that the correct BHL creator id attaches to the correct item and I've also corrected link in the BHL creator id mix'n'match catalogue. BHL uses those Wikidata items to ingest other identifiers such as VIAF etc into the author details box on their site (for more details see this blog) so in time and as a result of us editing Wikidata, the author details on their BHL creator page will also correct on the BHL platform. I'm just not sure how often they update this though. I've emailed JJ Dearborn to find out. All the best, Ambrosia10 (talk) 18:33, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Jahl de Vautban I've just had a reply from JJ Dearborn regarding this issue. It turns out that the importing of Wikidata items and their associated identifiers by BHL is not automated and the import was a one-time manual import experiment. However, there are currently discussions underway within BHL and also with their developers to work out whether automating the process can be implemented. I am certainly intending to encourage BHL to take this approach so issues such as the one you have raised can be more easily resolved. Ambrosia10 (talk) 21:24, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Great news! My main concern was to let them know about the issue, hopefully it will now be solved soon. For the Mix'n'Match catalog, you'll notice that while we have two entries, actually one is a redirect to the other. There were merged sometime in the last years, as I do recall them being two different records. I don't expect Jules Girard (Q1364415) to have written anything of interest for BHL though. --Jahl de Vautban (talk) 08:58, 30 January 2024 (UTC)