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Welcome edit

 

Welcome to Wikidata, Ham II!

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Best regards! by ReviTalkCMG at 11:14, 12 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

 

Welcome to Wikidata, Ham II!

Wikidata is a free knowledge base that you can edit! It can be read and edited by humans and machines alike and you can go to any item page now and add to this ever-growing database!

Need some help getting started? Here are some pages you can familiarize yourself with:

  • Introduction – An introduction to the project.
  • Wikidata tours – Interactive tutorials to show you how Wikidata works.
  • Community portal – The portal for community members.
  • User options – including the 'Babel' extension, to set your language preferences.
  • Contents – The main help page for editing and using the site.
  • Project chat – Discussions about the project.
  • Tools – A collection of user-developed tools to allow for easier completion of some tasks.

Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date.

If you have any questions, please ask me on [[User talk:|my talk page]]. If you want to try out editing, you can use the sandbox to try. Once again, welcome, and I hope you quickly feel comfortable here, and become an active editor for Wikidata.

Best regards! by ReviTalkCMG at 11:14, 12 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Merging items edit

Hallo Ham II,

When you are merging items, please use the Merge.js gadget. It helps you nominating, gives the option to always keep the lower number (which is older, so preferable) and makes it a lot easier for the admins to process the requests.

With regards,
-Cycn (talk) 12:21, 12 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Cadw IDs edit

Hi, please do not enter descriptions as Cadw building IDs, as you did here. Thanks. --Magnus Manske (talk) 13:04, 3 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

@Magnus Manske: Sorry! Artifex (talk) 17:25, 3 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

Public artworks edit

Hi,

I added some values to Anglo-Belgian Memorial (Q18562303). You may find them useful to bear in mind for future public artworks. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:07, 21 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

Confirmation edit

I hereby confirm that I, Artifex, am the same user as Ham on other projects, and wish to merge the two accounts as Ham II. Artifex (talk) 16:00, 29 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

Family edit

You created several items about families and tag them as people. Please fix it.--GZWDer (talk) 14:15, 4 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

@GZWDer:   Done Ham II (talk) 18:12, 4 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Description for Q56436498 items edit

Hi again,

This time, I'll ask for your adive before adding description in Cymraeg ;) also @Jason.nlw:.

There is 145299 items with instance of (P31) = village in India (Q56436498), alomost none of them have description in Cymraeg. Right now, there is only 5:

The last two are obvious error (due error in the value of instance of (P31) that was changed but not the description). The firt 3 have been added by @Danielt998: but which one do you think is best : tref or pentref? (in Breton, it will be kêriadenn India).

Since it's a big volume and since none have description in Breton, I'll use OpenRefine and add both descriptions have the same time (maybe other languages too, I'll ask). I'll wait for your answer and remarks, no hurry you can take your time  

A galon, VIGNERON (talk) 15:29, 20 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hey VIGNERON how are you? In Welsh Pentref is 'village' and Tref is 'town' so for these, as long as they are all villages, "pentref yn India" is correct.

Thanks! Jason.nlw (talk) 09:24, 21 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Yep definitely pentref, sorry my bad, not sure what happened there :) Danielt998 (talk) 14:15, 22 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Ham II, Jason.nlw, Danielt998: for information, I postponed it a bit but now it's done. I added almost 150k descriptions in Welsh (and Breton, and completed some in French and Italian) with « pentref yn India ». Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 09:17, 15 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
Fantastic, Merci! and Diolch yn fawr. All the best Jason.nlw (talk) 09:43, 15 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Bore da @Ham II, Jason.nlw, Danielt998:

Me again and same thing but for village in China this time. Is the description "pentref yn Tsieina" good enough?

Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 08:17, 6 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi VIGNERON! Yes "pentref yn Tsieina" is correct. Thanks! Jason.nlw (talk) 16:13, 8 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
@VIGNERON, Jason.nlw: Yep, I concur! Vigneron, sorry for not replying to you previously; I shouldn't have been encouraged to take my time!   Cheers, Ham II (talk) 17:31, 8 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

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Statue labels edit

Please note that labels of statues etc. should reflect the actual names of the statues (often the same as the person sculptured). This is not necessarily the same as the english WP article. --Hjart (talk) 14:33, 11 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Hjart: I hope you don't mind my asking, but how does one determine that Christian IX is the "actual name" for this sculpture? I changed the English label from the descriptive "Christian IX statue" to the also descriptive "Equestrian statue of Christian IX" in an attempt to establish a more consistent style for referring to statues, something I have also tried to do on the English Wikipedia. My understanding is that portrait sculptures of individuals in public places are more usually referred to in English by descriptive phrases ("the statue of Christian IX", etc.) than by "actual" titles. Sorry if I seem obtuse. Ham II (talk) 15:26, 11 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
The name is generally determined simply by reading the text on the statue. Do also note that I actually used to name sculptures in the same vein as you did, because I had seen other people do the same, but then gradually realized that this came out quite clumsy in lists etc and now I'm consistently avoiding it. I must admit though the text on the side of this 1 says "Kong Christian den 9.", so I probably should change at least the danish label accordingly (It's been a few years since I first touched this one). Please note that I'm fairly familiar with this statue and that 1 of the photos in commons:Category:Equestrian statue of Christian IX (Esbjerg) is mine. --Hjart (talk) 16:10, 11 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Hjart: I think that the inscriptions on statues such as these are identify the person portrayed rather than to give the title as such, otherwise Claude Gellée (Q18147025) would be titled C. Lorrain and Statue of Benjamin Disraeli (Q18161998) would be Beaconsfield. Could you give an example of a list or anything else in which using "Statue of" appears clumsy? I've got this list in my userspace in which "Statue of Christopher Columbus" is necessarily repeated a lot of times, but it would only be repeating something else if a different style were standard. Ham II (talk) 08:16, 16 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

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Call for participation in the interview study with Wikidata editors edit

Dear Ham II,

I hope you are doing good,

I am Kholoud, a researcher at King’s College London, and I work on a project as part of my PhD research that develops a personalized recommendation system to suggest Wikidata items for the editors based on their interests and preferences. I am collaborating on this project with Elena Simperl and Miaojing Shi.

I would love to talk with you to know about your current ways to choose the items you work on in Wikidata and understand the factors that might influence such a decision. Your cooperation will give us valuable insights into building a recommender system that can help improve your editing experience.

Participation is completely voluntary. You have the option to withdraw at any time. Your data will be processed under the terms of UK data protection law (including the UK General Data Protection Regulation (UK GDPR) and the Data Protection Act 2018). The information and data that you provide will remain confidential; it will only be stored on the password-protected computer of the researchers. We will use the results anonymized to provide insights into the practices of the editors in item selection processes for editing and publish the results of the study to a research venue. If you decide to take part, we will ask you to sign a consent form, and you will be given a copy of this consent form to keep.

If you’re interested in participating and have 15-20 minutes to chat (I promise to keep the time!), please either contact me at kholoudsaa@gmail.com or kholoud.alghamdi@kcl.ac.uk or use this form https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdmmFHaiB20nK14wrQJgfrA18PtmdagyeRib3xGtvzkdn3Lgw/viewform?usp=sf_link with your choice of the times that work for you.

I’ll follow up with you to figure out what method is the best way for us to connect.

Please contact me if you have any questions or require more information about this project.

Thank you for considering taking part in this research.

Regards

Kholoudsaa (talk) 18:36, 17 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Call for participation in a task-based online experiment edit

Dear Ham II,

I hope you are doing good,

I am Kholoud, a researcher at King's College London, and I work on a project as part of my PhD research, in which I have developed a personalised recommender system that suggests Wikidata items for the editors based on their past edits. I am collaborating on this project with Elena Simperl and Miaojing Shi.

I am inviting you to a task-based study that will ask you to provide your judgments about the relevance of the items suggested by our system based on your previous edits. Participation is completely voluntary, and your cooperation will enable us to evaluate the accuracy of the recommender system in suggesting relevant items to you. We will analyse the results anonymised, and they will be published to a research venue.

The study will start in late January 2022 or early February 2022, and it should take no more than 30 minutes.

If you agree to participate in this study, please either contact me at kholoud.alghamdi@kcl.ac.uk or use this form https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSees9WzFXR0Vl3mHLkZCaByeFHRrBy51kBca53euq9nt3XWog/viewform?usp=sf_link I will contact you with the link to start the study.

For more information about the study, please read this post: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Kholoudsaa In case you have further questions or require more information, don't hesitate to contact me through my mentioned email.

Thank you for considering taking part in this research.

Regards

Kholoudsaa (talk) 13:51, 8 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

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painting by William Etty edit

Hi Ham II, I noticed you renamed File:William Etty (1787-1849) - Candaules, King of Lydia, Shews his Wife by Stealth to Gyges, One of his Ministers, as She Goes to Bed - NG358 - National Gallery.jpg. You made a mistake. Candaules, King of Lydia, Shews his Wife by Stealth to Gyges, One of his Ministers, as She Goes to Bed (Q28537112) was in the National Gallery before it moved to Tate, see "Descriptive and Historical Catalogue of the Pictures in the National Gallery: British School. London: Her Majesty's Stationery Office. OCLC 84988356.". Can you please clean up and restore the data you removed? Thank you, Multichill (talk) 19:36, 7 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi Multichill, I was aware that it was in the National Gallery before being transferred to the Tate, but I didn't see why the filename would prioritise a former location over a current one. It's the many filenames giving works in the Tate as still being in the National Gallery (and all the works here that are no longer in the NG) that seem mistaken to me. Did I lose any data by renaming the file?
I merged Q28537112 into Q18756478 and removed an incorrect date (1820), some citations to enwiki (made redundant by citations to the Tate) and measurements for height and width which were the wrong way around. I also changed main subject (P921)candaulism (Q573557) to depicts (P180)candaulism (Q573557) and made Gyges in the bedchamber of King Candaules (Q110727150) the main subject. So I believe the data's more cleaned up than it was previously. Ham II (talk) 20:20, 7 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
I'm confused. If you knew it was in the National Gallery than why did the rename as an obvious error and why did you set the collection & inventory number to deprecated? Multichill (talk) 21:54, 7 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Multichill: It was in the National Gallery, but it would be an error to represent it as if it were still there, hence the renaming and the deprecating. The file wouldn't belong in commons:Category:British paintings in the National Gallery, London, so why should it have a filename that would imply that it does belong there? Ham II (talk) 22:14, 7 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Multichill: I've now had a read of Help:Ranking#Deprecated rank and see that deprecation is for "information that was never correct ... This does not apply to correct historical information, such as previous values of a statement, as long as they represent accurate information for the indicated time period." Sorry for my misunderstanding; I've changed the deprecated ranks to normal ones. Ham II (talk) 08:28, 8 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

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