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KlaasZ4usV (talkcontribs)

Perché 'American' è meglio che 'from United States'?

DarTar (talkcontribs)

Hello! I am following a convention used in the English language Wikipedia for describing people by their profession and their citizenship in the lead paragraph.

See for example:


This is also more common on Wikidata (because descriptions are often borrowed from the corresponding language edition) than the alternative "from [country name]". Does that make sense?

DarTar (talkcontribs)

I didn't change the description in Dutch because I didn't know if there were particular conventions, but it looks like "Amerikaans [profession]" is also quite common in lead paragraphs in Dutch Wikipedia: see for example articles in this category

KlaasZ4usV (talkcontribs)

Thank you for your answer, DarTar,

From [the] (nl: uit [de]) <country name> is practically always more specific especially if you speak about countries like US[A], because America[n] (nl: Amerika[ans]) may refer to the entire continent. Many times Americans believe they are the most important so they pretend "everybody" knows American can not mean Argentinian, Brazilian, Canadian, Mexican etc. America First ?

Like saying Dutch writer can mean a writer who writes in Dutch (from Belgium, Dutch Caribbean islands, Netherlands or Suriname). Clearer and more consistent would be in my opinion to call e.g. Theadora Christina Doelwijt writer from Suriname { before my change description was not even (politically) correct since Kingdom of the Netherlands does not recognize jus soli }

Other example: Afrikaans is a language - related to Dutch (linguists call it "daughter language") - spoken in South Africa and Namibia while the adjective in Dutch does not always refer to just these countries; Algerians, Egyptians, Moroccans, Nigerians etc. are Afrikanen (en: Africans) as well. Avoid confusion: be as specific as possible. The first letter of the acronym SMART

See also Commons

Best regards from Amsterdam, Netherlands and in bocca al lupo

Klaas `Z4us` van B. V

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