Delasse

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Best regards! Oleg3280 (talk) 11:16, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Untitled

You readded a redirected sitelink here. While this redirect may be appropriate on Wikipedia, what makes you think that it matches given Wikidata item? It's redirected to article en:rock (geology) that is for different subject rock (Q8063) and even within this Wikipedia article nothing distinctive about the subject of stone (Q22731) item seem to be said. So this sitelink seems useless, or rather simply misleading. 2001:7D0:81F7:B580:80EF:A0B8:4DEE:D969 11:03, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

• Somebody in future may want to write an article in English wikipedia about the subject of stone (Q22731). Thus this person already knows the name, and moreover can automatically generate a great part of the future article, the structure, infobox, categories etc. In Russian wikipedia ru:module:Wikidata/redLink is used, which can be used also in enwiki. --Delasse (talk) 11:21, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Purpose of the sitelink in this way isn't evident and the main purpose of sitelinks is something else – make reference to actual articles about the same subject in different language. I think it's better to add the sitelink later when and if such Wikipedia article is actually created. As for this module, it isn't used on enwiki, and redirected link isn't a red link anyway, is it? 2001:7D0:81F7:B580:DCB2:2883:B401:5066 11:52, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

RedLink is just a name, it can be used for creation articles anywhere. I see the benefits of having the link, but I see no harm. Why delete? --Delasse (talk) 11:56, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

As said, it's misleading, link goes to an article that is rather about something else (as also evidenced by language links in that Wikipedia article linking back to different articles). 2001:7D0:81F7:B580:DCB2:2883:B401:5066 12:09, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

I would not say that it's misleading, that it is about something else. If enwiki editors assume that the reader who typed the word "stone" should land on en:rock (geology) article then it is not completely about something else. --Delasse (talk) 12:12, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Well, English-language word has several meanings, but that's irrelvant to the subject of Wikidata item that is for single different meaning. This link is about what I get if follow sitelink on Wikidata or language link on other Wikipedia, not about what I search on English Wikipedia. 2001:7D0:81F7:B580:DCB2:2883:B401:5066 12:33, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

I tried to add an 'intentional sitelink to redirect' badge but Wikidata:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive/2020/10#filter_against_some_WD_sitelinks_has_false_positives is still in effect. Arlo Barnes (talk) 16:30, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

I disagree

I disagree with this, because the page is also about the Assyrian Orthodox. Veverve (talk) 08:04, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

@Veverve The scope of Russian article has been changed after a discussions in ruwiki and the article was rewritten. Now it is only about what in french called " Église des trois conciles ". Also a separate article about Churches of the two councils (Q3562325) was created. Delasse (talk) 08:35, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Вилучення інформації про колишні сільради Харківської області

Вітаю! Поясніть будь ласка, навіщо Ви вилучаєте з елементів посилання на статті з російської Вікіпедії напр., це? Це колишні сільські ради, а значить треба у вікіданих позначити, що вони колишні, а не вилучати дані з елемента. --Kharkivian (talk) 19:22, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Дякую, я вже зрозумів. Я думав що у колишніх сільрад немає значимості, але мені вже пояснили в росвікі. Delasse (talk) 19:25, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Всі адміністративні одиниці, в т.ч. колишні, мають автоматичну значущість (напр., волості часів Російської імперії чи козацькі сотні Гетьманщини чи Слобідської України, або ж паланки Війська Запорозького низового). Якщо статті існують у Вікіпедії, то мають існувати елементи. Будь ласка, скасуйте свої правки, якими Ви масово повилучали цінну інформацію. Дякую. --Kharkivian (talk) 19:34, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Вже скасував. Зараз все ок? Delasse (talk) 19:36, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Reservoirs

Hi. See Talk:Q131681. The distinction between Q131681 and Q2551525 is that, first is an "artificial lake impounded using a dam" (see English description), and second is more broadly a natural or artificial body of water used to store water. Sitelinks that you moved from from Q2551525 to Q131681 (diff) were for Wikipedia articles on reservoirs that aren't sepcifically about impounded reservoirs. Oddly you also moved bunch of links, such as fr:réservoir d'eau, to still waters (Q337567), which in turn is more borad, including all lakes, ponds etc., also those that aren't used to store water. I don't quite understand what is the rationale behind your change. As far as I can see reservoirs in strict sense (impounded ones) and broad sense (also including natural reservoirs, ones in excavated depressions, water tanks etc.) are distinct, separate articles for these exist on several Wikipedias, and now their sitelinks are again mixed up. 2001:7D0:81DA:F780:90A4:B91F:A32F:871A 08:43, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

another redirect re-adding.

Hi, you re-added the enwiki Print circulation link to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q759811 in https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q759811&oldid=prev&diff=1460558510&diffmode=source which I had removed in https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q759811&diff=prev&oldid=1388568296&diffmode=source . I removed it because Print circulation on enwiki just redirects to Newspaper circulation there, which as you can see already is attached to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q40932996 .

I'm re-removing it, we can discuss it here or in the wikitems talkpage. CatQuest, The Endeavouring Cat! (talk) 11:55, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello, @CatCat! Please read Wikidata:Sitelinks to redirects. Redirects are allowed as sitelinks. Delasse (talk) 11:59, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

The following is a proposed Wikidata policy or guideline. it says, so it is not yet a guideline (and guidelines are not rules) furthermore I do not agree with this use, news circulation is not the same as (print) circulation, news is much more specific, while print means all kinds; books, magazines, comics. News is only newspaper etc. It already does have it's own item. As such, linking the redirect in this situation creates the issue that someone looking for the english article for their native word for "(print) circulation" ("oplag" in danish for example) will wrongly get redirected to the english "news circulation" article instead. Now if the redirect would go to a section in that article about wider circulation in general I would not object, but it does not, and the article does not even mention wider (ie print) circulation (atleast last time I was looking at it.). CatQuest, The Endeavouring Cat! (talk) 12:14, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

@CatCat on en:Talk:Newspaper circulation many people proposed to change the scope of the article to wider one. I opened a formal discussion, thus now we should just wait for a result. Delasse (talk) 12:17, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Щодо КАТОТТГ

Вітаю. Кодифікатор КАТОТТГ створений 2020 року, після завершення формування територіальних громад, коли всі міські, сільські та селищні ради були ліквідовані. Кодифіктором присвоєно номери областям, районам громадам та окремим населеним пунктам відповідно до нового АТУ, тому не розумію, звідки Ви взяли коди, наприклад, для Q20091225 або Q17095436. Уважніше, будь ласка.--Юрко Градовський (talk) 19:42, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

@Юрко Градовський так у вказаному джерелі. Але це справді треба видаляти, згідний з вами. Джерела також можуть помилятися Delasse (talk) 19:46, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

@Юрко Градовський там ще і КОАТУУ були помилкові, скопійовані із елементу про населений пункт. Їх також треба видалити. Delasse (talk) 19:48, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Немає КАТОТТГ на ці ради і бути не може ні в яких джерелах - вони ліквідовані. КОАТУУ треба не видаляти, а вписувати правильні.--Юрко Градовський (talk) 19:52, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

special:diff/1478729833

Olá, Delasse! Como você adiciona uma página que é redirecionamento para outra? Comigo sempre aparece a seguinte mensagem de erro:

Site link $1 is already used by item $2. Perhaps the items should be merged. Ask at d:Wikidata:Interwiki conflicts if you believe that they should not be merged.

Saudações, --Luan (talk) 13:53, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

@Luan Para fazer isso, você precisa remover temporariamente o redirecionamento, consulte Wikidata:Sitelinks to redirects. Delasse (talk) 13:58, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Сланцы

You claim that "russian сланцы is only about metamorphic rock, not including sedimentary" (Special:Diff/1468437704). From what source you get this idea, and also did you notice that in edit summary I referred to GREO article where both sedimentary schist (оса­доч­ные С.) and metamorphic schist (ме­та­мор­фи­че­ские С.) is covered? I see you recently altered the definition in ru:Special:Diff/115730939, but you didn't provide source, and below this article still says "Относятся к терригенным или к метаморфическим горным породам" (терригенным being linked to "Механогенные осадочные породы"). 2001:7D0:81DA:F780:2CAC:D53F:6593:B1C3 12:42, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

In regard to your recent merge, schistosity and fissility are definitely different. It is especially odd that you wipe off "schistosity" completely (Special:Diff/1482636134), without even keeping it as alias. Per [1] "schistosity" also is a valid translation of "сланцеватость". You are making a mess. Please rely more on reliable sources, and less on hunch. 2001:7D0:81DA:F780:2CAC:D53F:6593:B1C3 13:38, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Interwiki links problem

Hello Delasse,

Hope you are doing well, I have raised the following request in Wikidata, and someone recommended me to contact you, to see if you could help to solve it.

I would appreciate if you can please take a look.

Muchas gracias !

Uruk from Spanish Wikipedia --Uruk (talk) 21:39, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Oceania (Q55643)/Insular Oceania (Q538)

{{interwiki conflict |items = Q55643/Q538 |status = not resolved |discussion =

The problem happens within the said Qs in the realm of the Spanish Wikipedia. This problem has arisen during work we are performing within the completion of the 10,000 articles every Wikipedia should have.

Currently Q538 english language article link is to the "Insular Oceania" article , and Q55643 english language article link is to the "Oceania" article. BUT in fact in english Wikipedia "Insular Oceania" is just a REDIRECTION to the article "Oceania"

The problem happens when I try to replicate the same model of links that work in english wikipedia within the Spanish wikipedia.

Currently Q538 spanish language article link is to the "Oceanía" article, and for Q55643 there is no link provided to an spanish language article. I have created a spanish article called "Australia and Oceanía" (that is the official name of Q538), and in it just placed a REDIRECT to the spanish article "Oceanía", the problem is that when I try to provide a link for Q55643 to a spanish wikipedia article it would reject the insertion of the article "Australia y Oceanía" !!!

Would appreciate very much if you could process this request, and provide an exception.

Kind regards

•  Done --Delasse (talk) 21:45, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Interwiki links problem - Part 2

Hello Delasse,

Hope you are doing well, I am contacting you regarding a similar problem like the one you help resolve before.

I would appreciate if you can please take a look and fix it.

Muchas gracias !

Uruk from Spanish Wikipedia --Uruk (talk) 15:58, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Kanem Empire (Q1537016)/Kanem-Bornu Empire (Q1139762)

{{interwiki conflict |items = Q1537016/Q1139762 |status = not resolved |discussion =

The problem happens within the said Qs in the realm of the Spanish Wikipedia. This problem has arisen during work we are performing within the completion of the 10,000 articles every Wikipedia should have.

Currently Q1139762 english language article link is to the "Empire Kanem-Bonu" article, and Q1537016 english language article link is to the "Empire Kanem" article. BUT in fact in english Wikipedia "Empire Kanem" is just a REDIRECTION to the article "Empire Kanem-Bonu"

The problem happens when I try to replicate the same model of links that work in English wikipedia within the Spanish wikipedia.

Currently Q1139762 spanish language article link is to the "Imperio Kanem-Bonu" article, and for Q1537016 there is no link provided to an Spanish language article. I have created a spanish article called "Imperio Kanem" (that is the official name of Q1537016), and in it just placed a REDIRECT to the Spanish article "Imperio Kanem-Bonu", the problem is that when I try to provide a link for Q1537016 to a spanish wikipedia article it would reject the insertion of the article "Imperio Kanem" !!

Would appreciate very much if you could process this request, and provide an exception.

Kind regards

best regards, --Uruk (talk) 15:11, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Call for participation in a task-based online experiment

Dear Delasse,

I hope you are doing good,

I am Kholoud, a researcher at King's College London, and I work on a project as part of my PhD research, in which I have developed a personalised recommender system that suggests Wikidata items for the editors based on their past edits. I am collaborating on this project with Elena Simperl and Miaojing Shi.

I am inviting you to a task-based study that will ask you to provide your judgments about the relevance of the items suggested by our system based on your previous edits.

Participation is completely voluntary, and your cooperation will enable us to evaluate the accuracy of the recommender system in suggesting relevant items to you. We will analyse the results anonymised, and they will be published to a research venue.

The study will start in late January 2022 or early February 2022, and it should take no more than 30 minutes.

If you agree to participate in this study, please either contact me at kholoud.alghamdi@kcl.ac.uk or use this form https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSees9WzFXR0Vl3mHLkZCaByeFHRrBy51kBca53euq9nt3XWog/viewform?usp=sf_link

I will contact you with the link to start the study.

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In case you have further questions or require more information, don't hesitate to contact me through my mentioned email.

Thank you for considering taking part in this research.

Regards

Kholoudsaa (talk) 20:44, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Diesel/Petrol railcar ; electric railcar and Motor coach

• A motor coach is a railcar (diesel, electric or petrol) which is "capable of hauling a train" (en:Wiki). The correct Wikidata is Q106400339.

• Q752392 fr:Autorail nl:Motorwagen is a diesel or petrol railcar.

• Q7132141 en:Railcar fr:automotrice is a railcar whether it's diesel, petrol, electric, hybrid (...)

Arflhn (talk) 16:09, 9 February 2022 (UTC)