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Mike Peel (talkcontribs)
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Dexxor (talkcontribs)
Dhx1 (talkcontribs)

I think GenBank assembly accession number (P4333) should probably be changed so that it can only be used on genome assembly (Q55433859) (I think?), and cannot be used directly on taxon (Q16521)? And then there could be 100,000 genome assembly (Q55433859) for a single taxon (Q16521), linked via genome assembly (Q55433859) found in taxon (P703) taxon (Q16521). If this sounds correct I can propose the change to GenBank assembly accession number (P4333) so that there aren't 100,000 statements on a given taxon. There are quite a few taxons with no many genomic assemblies, they can't be added to Wikidata as the page size for the taxon item exceeds the maximum limit.

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U. M. Owen (talkcontribs)
Dhx1 (talkcontribs)

Done :)

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2A01:CB14:D52:1200:59C7:14E9:5DDB:7962 (talkcontribs)

Hello,


You have set to withdrawn several education property proposal from Andrews Lartey. FYI Wikidata:Property proposal/ISCED-ALevel has not been commented by anybody and is not included in the main proposal page.

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Oronsay (talkcontribs)

Thank you for proposing this Identifier. I just saw it in Wikidata weekly summary #543. I've noted my support for this proposal and tweeted to Wikimedia Australia as the Ping had not worked, or at least I didn't notice it. Hopefully, that will draw more response. ~~~~

Dhx1 (talkcontribs)

Thank you @Oronsay:. I'm not sure why the project ping didn't work this time.

Reply to "Bureau of Meteorology Location ID"
Summary by Dhx1

New formatter URL now in place. IDs haven't changed.

Leyo (talkcontribs)
Dhx1 (talkcontribs)

Thanks @Leyo: the link rot is impacting other property JECFA number (P9557) as well. It looks like all three properties had formatter or source URIs that are now dead, and seemingly don't have equivalent databases replacing them. JECFA number (P9557) is not a database identifier (an ID that is largely useless when the database dies) but rather a number similar to CAS Registry Number (P231) that is used and referred to elsewhere.

Dhx1 (talkcontribs)

I have marked the old URIs as dead (link rot) and updated property descriptions to make it clear the properties are for former identification schemes.

Leyo (talkcontribs)
Dhx1 (talkcontribs)

Perfect, thanks for finding that new page! I've updated JECFA database ID (P4852) to use the new URL structure. The property lives on!

Leyo (talkcontribs)

Thanks for updating! Could you please also have another look at JMPR database ID (P4853)? The original URLs seem to work again.

Dhx1 (talkcontribs)
Summary by Dhx1

Bug resolved

Metamorforme42 (talkcontribs)
Dhx1 (talkcontribs)
Wdpp (talkcontribs)
Dhx1 (talkcontribs)

Thanks for the reminder. I used to run RfcBot manually every few weeks but have obviously forgotten to do so recently. I'm currently running it again right now. RfcBot needs to be rewritten as it is years old and very slow to run as it doesn't use batch processing or any other features to make it run quickly.

Wdpp (talkcontribs)
Chuankaz (talkcontribs)

Greetings,

I noticed your editing stats in Wikidata, which led me to look up your profile. Thank you for all the great work!

I’m reaching out to you because I’m working on a research project about understanding what motivates editors like you to contribute to Wikidata. We’re also interested in learning about how you feel your contributions are being used outside of Wikidata. Since you are such an active community member, I thought you might also be interested in helping to build the broader community’s knowledge about Wikidata, and why it matters.

If you’re interested, let’s schedule a time to talk over Zoom, or whichever platform you prefer. If you are interested, please fill in a questionnaire or reply to me directly. The conversation should take about 30 min.

Hope you have a great day,

Charles

Alexmar983 (talkcontribs)

Hi, can i ask why? I have been using P18 as a support for the references since June after a discussion at the village pump months before, all my insertions of Wiki Loves Monuments ID and their (productive) use as references are based on this discussion and those previously existing uses. It's very useful in general to put it as a clear link to a document, a grave, a plaque. I therefore disagree with this constraint, where was it discussed?

Dhx1 (talkcontribs)

It was just based on usage statistics at Property_talk:P18 where as main value (Q54828448) is the overwhelming use of image (P18). It is possible to add as qualifiers (Q54828449) and as references (Q54828450) if there is a use case for this. You've mentioned a few use cases where more applicable properties exist though. For documents, I suggest using described by source (P1343), for plaques commemorative plaque image (P1801), place name signs place name sign (P1766), and graves/tombs image of grave (P1442).

Alexmar983 (talkcontribs)

I Know they exist, I said "in general" for that reason, I was referring to the fact that you need to use an image as a reference. As a result, you simply cannot create always a set of specific properties for that, the general one has an intrinsic value per se. My images for example are letter of consents, for example. it looked to me that P1343 was designed to link to an item, not a file on commons.

Dhx1 (talkcontribs)

The ideal approach would be creation of a new item which is instance of letter of consent (Q88798846) and then using document file on Wikimedia Commons (P996) on this new item to link to the Commons file. Alternatively or additionally a WikiSource item can be linked and/or Wikisource index page (P1957) used. Then in references, described by source (P1343) item-which-is-instance-of-letter of consent (Q88798846) would be used.

That doesn't rule out the need for use of image (P18) for use as a reference. A fact on Wikidata could be verified by observing a photo hosted on Wikimedia Commons. For example, what colour an object is, the name of a building on a sign in an old photo, etc. I generally support adding "as reference values" to the property constraint of image properties (and subproperties thereof).