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Toghrul Rahimli (talkcontribs)

Hello, can you please fix the bot to not to translate Soviet into Russisch? For instance, Q4073250. The actress was Azerbaijani. There were thousands of nations within the USSR, so, making it Soviet actress in holland would be great. Cheers!

Edoderoo (talkcontribs)

If you do not speak Dutch, it would be better to not care about Dutch translations. I know that there is a lot of nationalistic pain, but please keep politics out of Wikidata.

Toghrul Rahimli (talkcontribs)

It's not about nationality, a person had nothing to do with Russia should not be considered russian. I request to change it from russian to soviet to eliminate the notion of nation. And the description gets fetched by SEO engines and shows it wrongly.

Edoderoo (talkcontribs)

In Dutch there is no "Sovjettisch" ... those people were called "Russen". Therefor I said: "If you do not speak Dutch, do not interfere with Dutch descriptions".

Toghrul Rahimli (talkcontribs)

You don't have to requote. I have politely asked, and got the answer from the first part of your second reply.

Btw, I can interfere whatever i can (or want), right? Have a nice day.

Edoderoo (talkcontribs)

You did not ask, but gave me orders to change something without explaining why ... at least, I didn't buy your explanations, and you are no. 5 to ask me for this. I don't know why it keeps coming back, and it's not in my interest to change the characteristics of Dutch language.

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Mad melone (talkcontribs)

Hi,

I have run a script and have two lists:

I now have written a bot and will ask for a bot flag for the automatic correction, but wanted to check in with you first whether this tasked is needed.

Kind regards and take care, Mad melone

Edoderoo (talkcontribs)

Nice! You can probably run it without a bot flag too, only at lower speeds.

Mad melone (talkcontribs)
Edoderoo (talkcontribs)

Nice again! I have a script that tries to find wikidata-items that need updating their P2121 earned dollars. But the actual updating is still manual work, so if you find a way to update P2121 from the WTA/ATP websites, it would be a very good progress.

Mad melone (talkcontribs)

Hey, this is not a problem. I actually already have a script that can create infoboxes (at least for the German wikipedia) and adding an output for Wikidata wouldn't be that much of a problem. You can find more information on https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Mad_melone/WikiTennisBot/PlayerProfiles - it will probably take some time to get this as a bot, however. There is a webservice via https://wikitennisbot.toolforge.org/playerinfobox/ which scrapes information from the ATP website and creates a fresh infbox (create new infobox) or even consolidates with exisiting information from the wiki article, takes over the main data and only updates the information that is updated weekly (update infobox). Let me know in case you would like another country added to this. Also, spread the word and let me know feedback


//edit: For an overview, see https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:WikiTennisBot/PlayerInfobox

Mad melone (talkcontribs)

Update: the remaining items should update overnight, so far only ~1,200 are outstanding. See https://w.wiki/n9E and sort by "itf_new" for potential empty ones. Please note, there are roughly 30 players for which the old itf ID was incorrect - see my first comment in this thread.


I have checked as many of the items as I could and have already fixed one major and one minor bug, but the last edits were all fine. Please also have a look and let me know if this is what you wanted. Also, let me know in case of similar work and I am happy to help.

Melone

Edoderoo (talkcontribs)

Thanks ... I tried to do this myself at first, but the ITF-site was too much using java script. Good to see that you saved us so much manual work, the last few probably need manual checks. I find a few not working WTA-id's per year too, you never know if those every worked or not. But I'm always happy with the items that do work...


Another interesting task could be updating the P2121 and P555 from the WTA-website, and if you like from the ATP-website as well. I have some scripts running to find items that might need updating, based on differences between de/fr/en-wiki and wikidata, but it's a job that could actually be automated in the end.

Mad melone (talkcontribs)

I will look into this - the layout of the code is already there...

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Klaas van Buiten (talkcontribs)

Wat betekent dit? Deze tekenreeks zegt me geen moer als ik eerlijk mag zijn en het 'plat' mag zeggen. Daarom had ik het onder het vjvegjg-motto weggehaald

Edoderoo (talkcontribs)

Dit is een unieke afkorting, zodat je snel en efficient nieuwe items van de juiste data kan voorzien. Q29999 is te foutgevoelig in de praktijk, en <man> en <vrouw> hebben zo'n onmogelijk Q-nummer dat ze niet te onthouden zijn. Deze afkortingen dus graag laten staan, anders wordt het in de praktijk praktisch onmogelijk om snel en zonder teveel gepruts nieuwe items van gegevens te voorzien.

Klaas van Buiten (talkcontribs)

oke, een trucje dus :) 'k vraag me hardop af of anderen niet dezelfde 'foute' actie gaan maken die ik pleegde; veel succes met dit steeds terug moeten draaien, al dan niet met begrijpelijke uitleg.

Edoderoo (talkcontribs)

je kunt het in de geschiedenis wel terugvinden. Uit mijn hoofd ben je nr.3, de laatste keer is zeker een jaar terug.

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84.195.103.224 (talkcontribs)

Hallo Edoderoo, ik zag net de nieuwe pagina over Marie-Caroline Murray. Waarop baseerde je deze info? Dat ze een biografie van Catherina de Grote schreef is nergens geverifeerd kunnen worden. Dat zou je misschien nog kunnen toevoegen?

84.195.103.224 (talkcontribs)

Ik zoek nl meer info over Murray, moest je nog goede publicaties kennen buiten degene op je wikipagina hoor ik het graag! alvast veel dank!

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Lotje (talkcontribs)

Hallo Edoderoo, kan worden nagegaan of hij nu de 12de of 13 Earl of Morton was?

''John Smibert (1688-1751) - Colonel George Douglas (1662–1738), Later 12th Earl of Morton'' of George Douglas, 13th Earl of Morton (1662 – 4 January 1738).

Ik bedoel maar dat de naam van de image misschien moet gecorrigeerd? Thanks. ~~~~

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RonnieV (talkcontribs)

Hoi Edoderoo,

Waar zou Huub Janssen bekend zijn als Huub Janssen (auteur)? Ik kan me iets voorstellen bij zinvol gebruik als iemand onder een pseudoniem/schuilnaam,... bekend is of als er daadwerkelijk spelvarianten van de naam in omloop zijn. Maar de louter administratieve keuze in nl-Wikipedia om zijn naam zo weer te geven voor intern gebruik, vind je dat werkelijk een alias? Met vriendelijke groet, RonnieV (talk) 00:06, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Edoderoo (talkcontribs)

Ik denk dat het een verkeerde vraag is. De vraag die ik met dat script probeer te beantwoorden, is "waarom heeft 10% van de Nederlandstalige artikelen" wel Duitse, Engelse, etc labels, maar niets in het Nederlands?

Dat komt doordat alles maar geautomatiseerd wordt aangemaakt, en zo'n Wikidata-item de benodigde wiki-love mist. En ik kan dat niet allemaal in mijn eentje met de hand gaan zitten vullen, maar niks doen is de laatste 5 jaar ook geen werkbare optie gebleken. Mensen kunnen betere wikidata-items maken dan scripts, maar dat gebeurt helaas niet.

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Summary by Prahlad balaji

question answered

Prahlad balaji (talkcontribs)
Edoderoo (talkcontribs)

That came from the Spanish description, that was most likely vandalised at the time the bot passed.

Prahlad balaji (talkcontribs)

Sure, thanks for the explanation.

Succu (talkcontribs)

Here you added nl label/description after some minutes while I was creating that item. Thats to fast, I think.

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Kvdrgeus (talkcontribs)
Edoderoo (talkcontribs)

Mercikes!

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Willem Barend Aalbers (Q97753838)

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Woordenbrij2 (talkcontribs)

Sorry Edoderoo,


ik denk dat wij zojuist aan data voor hetzelfde lemma/ dezelfde persoon hebben gewerkt. Ik heb ze “gemerged” . Hopelijk is dat goed gegaan.


Prettige dag verder.

Mvg., ~~~~

Edoderoo (talkcontribs)

Prima! Je kunt dit vaak voorkomen door EERST het artikel te koppelen, en daarna pas de properties in te vullen. Voor het aanmaken en linken is een scriptje, zie mijn https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Edoderoo/global.js global.js op META. Het voordeel van dit op META in te voeren, is dat het gelijk werkt over alle taalversies.

Edoderoo (talkcontribs)
Woordenbrij2 (talkcontribs)

Bedankt voor de tips Edo !

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