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Best regards! Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:15, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Cycling 2018Edit

Hi Gan. For this new year, we now have a page to list the races we create items and articles : Wikidata:WikiProject Cycling/2018 races. It should be more easy for you to add statements or translations. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 19:57, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Races without instance of (P31)Edit

I see that you have added several races without specifying any instance of (P31). Could you please in the future add a suitable type? Thanks. Laboramus (talk) 23:01, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

  • @Laboramus:, а можно ещё раз, но на русском?   Если правильно понял то речь идёт о профиле этапов многодневных гонок? — GAN (talk) 23:51, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Да, конечно. Я попросил указывать instance of (P31) в тех элементах, которые вы добавляете - см. например https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q43083954&diff=615454063&oldid=593368279. Без этого, непонятно, что именно этот элемент должен описывать. Если вы не можете подобрать нужный тип, вы можете посоветоваться с другими участниками, например, в Wikidata:Форум или создать новый тип. Создание множества элементов без типа затрудняет дальнейшую работу с этими данными. Laboramus (talk) 23:59, 31 December 2017 (UTC)


    • Букв много.  
  • В многодневных велогонках в пункте "instance of (P31)" указывается профиль этапа. А в пункте "part of (P361)" указывается гонка за конкретный год этапом которой он является. Пример Тур де Франс 2018, 1-й этап
Вот тут Wikidata:WikiProject Cycling/Kit to translate в частности можно посмотреть названия всех профилей этапов. Они расположены под третьей  •
- на странице гонки за конкретный год указываются страницы с её этапами. Пример Тур де Франс 2018
- на основной странице гонке указываются все выпуски этой гонки по годам. Пример Тур де Франс

Всё это завязано на Module:Cycling race. Страница в ru-wiki ru:Модуль:Cycling race. Данный модуль устроен так, что для начала отображения (функционирования) различных его таблиц в статье обязательно нужно указывать только ряд параметров. Модуль этот един для всех Wiki и отличается только небольшими отличиями во внешнем виде. Его автор если не ошибаюсь User:Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick

Конкретно для этапов "Тиррено - Адриатико 1980" я данные брал из fr:Tirreno-Adriatico 1980 где профиль указан только для двух этапов (буквы "clm" в скобочках). В итоге получилась табличка в разделе "Маршрут" на ru:Тиррено — Адриатико 1980, где значок   как раз и отображает данные из P31. Для начала отображения данный таблицы достаточно указать point in time (P585) и series ordinal (P1545) на странице этапа, а также сами этапы на странице гонки за год в P527

В ru-wiki любителей велоспорта считанное количество. В Wikidata подробно сделаны гонки максимум с 2015 года. И то значимые. Некоторое время назад можно было создавать тут новый элемент на основе существующей в какой-либо Wiki статьи, который автоматом вносил несколько значений. Но теперь не нахожу данной возможности. Я вношу все данные в ручном режиме. Поэтому если попадается мало-мальски начатое тут описание гонки, то довожу его до необходимого минимума позволяющего модулю создавать таблицы в ru-wiki.

И попутно вопрос. По наличию у тебя ботов я полагаю разбираешься в Lua? Мне нужно один модуль из fr-wiki в ru-wiki перенести.  

GAN (talk) 01:11, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi. I don't understand russian, but if it is the question, there is always one and only one way to fill Wikidata for the reason datas are reused in different Wikipedias with an algorithm. On Module:Cycling race we have documentation for stages : Wikidata:WikiProject Cycling/Documentation/stageinfobox. It is written in French, but it is translatable and items quoted have values in Russian. For the item of a stage, instance of (P31) is the type of the stage, if we don't know the type, we write just round (Q18131152) (with the idea that a day, with a partnership, we could have access to old race book). Here, part of (P361) is the edition 1980 of the race. In case of problem, you can contact me. Try a second time if I don't respond, it can be because I don't see the notification. And : happy new year. Take pleasure when you contribute it is the most important. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 19:03, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
I know that French users sometimes use gadgets to transfer datas. On my side, I do all by hand except the use of nameGuzzler to add names in latin languages. I have the time because we are more numerous. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 10:08, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Прямой/косвенный порядок в русских названияхEdit

[1] Где-то есть требования, чтобы устанавливался именно косвенный порядок? Этот пережиток времён БСЭ технически желателен для русскоязычных названий, или вы просто считаете что так лучше? С уважением. --Wolverène (talk) 20:47, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

  • @Wolverène: В велостатьях активно используем ru:Модуль:Cycling race берущий данные из Wikidata. Одна из его особенностей это использование в большинстве, если не во всех, случаев названий статей из ru-Wiki при их наличии, которые у нас названы "Фамилия, Имя". Если статьи нету берётся основное название из Wikdata. Поэтому чтобы не было разношёрстного отображения в таблицах велогонщиков тут называем аналогично. В примере все красные ссылки это названия с Wikidata. А так как у гонщика может быть указано несколько вариантов написания как его зовут, такой вариант написания ещё удобен и при поиске по фамилии. — GAN (talk) 21:14, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
    • Хорошо, спасибо. --Wolverène (talk) 21:45, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Johan SvenssonEdit

There is no article in any Wikipedia on a cyclist named Johan Svensson; whether this person is mentioned on some website or not, they are non-notable, and it is problematic to include them. If you disagree, please create a Wikipedia article on the person - the link as it stands only causes errors in Wikipedia. BD2412 (talk) 13:41, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

I have written him up, see w:Johan Svensson (cyclist). That particular problem seems to have been solved.
However, the problem caused by José Varela in Q28057330 (who I wrote up five hours ago as w:José Varela (cyclist)) has not.
"On the contrary, these modules create a lot of good conveniences for the Vicki language sections in which there are few authors who love cycling, allowing them to jointly create articles together with different lists and tables for articles about races and teams in different languages."
Oh no they don't! Not if they create bad links for Wikipedia readers and near-insoluble problems for Wikipedia editors, they don't. Are you familiar with the English expression, "You're having a laugh"? It is not a compliment.
I will be following José Varela's progress in the Grand Tours, if he ever gets to ride in one. Narky Blert (talk) 00:21, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Andy SchleckEdit

Please, please stop changing picture preferences, otherwise this ugly portrait is shown in infoboxes, also its mor intresting to show a sportsman in action, than to have an ugly portait without colours and contrast. --Les Meloures (talk) 11:26, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

  • @Les Meloures: On the photogoraphy "in motion" the image of a person's face is less informative. As a result, the card (infobox) which should give the basic information about the person will give it in a smaller volume as it is impossible to clearly represent the person described in the article in the photo. To do this, you will need to additionally place a second photo, and in articles with a small amount of text this will not look very good. Most photos for the infobox just represent a more distinct image of a person by which it can be recognized. I can offer you two such images: foto-1, foto-1 and foto-2. — GAN (talk) 13:02, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
Its not only the sportsman face that is important, but the whole shape.
But after 12 years on Wiki I'am tired of such discussions and I will put it manually in the article's box and if other want to have this ugly portait of Andy so they can do. Best regards --Les Meloures (talk) 13:28, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Q36689657Edit

Hey GAN, I just found Q36689657 which was created by you. What’s the purpose? Did you mean to create a property instead of an item? Cheers, —MisterSynergy (talk) 17:48, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Looks like there is already mountains classification (P4320). Is that what you wanted to have? —MisterSynergy (talk) 18:01, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Bicycle raceEdit

@Repf72: All dates from http://www.cyclingarchives.com/ I suggest that you first remove all point in time (P585) races, and then add it again. Not to delete in some races only a year without a date.

@Repf72: Posted by "Q" and date for Gent–Wevelgem. Some years have two pages each. — GAN (talk) 18:33, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
@GAN: Yes. I delete dates to add new ones, but in some reces forgot it, but are fixed. With supplied dates. It will be fast. Repf72 (talk) 18:47, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
For "Gent–Wevelgem" could you check duplicated items and merge if convenient or simple unlink extra elements to eliminate duplicated items? Repf72 (talk) 03:41, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
@Repf72: I cleaned the women and the young. There you need about 40 races to unite (until 1979). The best way is to copy the list to Excel and remove the unnecessary lines there.— GAN (talk) 10:08, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Not merged or not unlinked elements will continuing adding noise to queries. I merged 4 elements for E3 Harelbeke, before datafill.Repf72 (talk) 13:35, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Omloop Het Nieuwsblad 71 editions datafiled, but current edition is 73, do you have some link about explication of missed editions? Repf72 (talk) 15:32, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
@Repf72: I combined all the paired pages of "Gent–Wevelgem". Omlup was not conducted in 1960, 1986, and 2004. Perhaps because of this failure in the numbering. — GAN (talk) 15:48, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_Het_Volk_2007

in text - №63
in the card - №62
in order - №60

http://www.cyclingarchives.com/wedstrijdfiche.php?wedstrijdid=347 The text in the frame at the top is probably helpful. I read and write with the help of an interpreter. :)

Omloop Het Nieuwsblad: 3 skipping points for 2 editions. Well I change numbering skipping just 1986 and 2004, but it is a pendient issue to reference the numbering. Repf72 (talk) 16:32, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

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Amstel Gold RaceEdit

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Clásica de San SebastiánEdit

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Sunweb Development 2018Edit

Bonjour, Sunweb Development est une équipe continentale, Sunweb Development 2018 est une saison d'équipe (et donc en aucun cas une équipe). Merci. Mith (talk) 12:40, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

P527Edit

If you want to re-order P527 (as you did at Q510854) you can send before an quick statements deleting all P527 elements and then you can send again programming.

To delete just use "-" before Qxxxx.

Delete script

-QxxxRace P527 QxxxEdition
-QxxxRace P527 QxxxEdition
-QxxxRace P527 QxxxEdition

Re add script

QxxxRace P527 QxxxEdition
QxxxRace P527 QxxxEdition
QxxxRace P527 QxxxEdition

Any doubt read Help:QuickStatements

Bye.Repf72 (talk) 19:14, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

  • @Repf72: Muchas gracias. I am sometimes much easier to understand with examples than to look for in a manual due to my level of knowledge of foreign languages. Made all winners for d:Q157475GAN (talk) 22:15, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Cyclist creationEdit

Excellent you are using quick statements. Please be aware that you should use date of birth (P569) to datafill "date of birth" instead of point in time (P585) as you did for Danny Neskens (Q57780350) and Roger Verheyden (Q57780349).

It is demanding but it is necessary check if rider name exist with some name variation before create it. For example you create Karel De Baere (Q57416498) but exits Karel De Baere (Q3193060) and also 2018 Grand Prix de Plumelec-Morbihan (Q57780342), but there is Jean Patou (Q16066922) (some palmares uses Jules and some Jean). To avoid duplications I always verify checking palmares in other wikis (sometimes I catch name with son little variation), I also check in internet and finally I check palmares at Cycling Archives or Procyclingstats fo find name variations and check if they exist at Wikidata. Regards Repf72 (talk) 01:52, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Community Insights SurveyEdit

RMaung (WMF) 17:37, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Reminder: Community Insights SurveyEdit

RMaung (WMF) 19:53, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

URL'sEdit

Hi! What's a point with adding links like this? This info is already sourced with PCS raceid and there's no point in adding another source for such easily verifible info. Moreover adding these URL's makes a terrible effect on other Wiki's using module:cycling (check for example how pl:Dookoła Rumunii looks now after adding that one... 99kerob (talk) 13:26, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Q62124054Edit

Hi! As I can see you can write in cyryllic. Could you identify a cyclist who was second in 1986 Okolo Slovenska? He is added as Gennadij Alexasis but I guess that it isn't a correct version as I couldn't find anyone who was named like this - probably his surname looked a little different, maybe you can find him? 99kerob (talk) 14:48, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

https://www.okoloslovenska.com/en/news/who-will-join-the-famous-winners-in-the-58-year-old-history-of-the-race - There is a file with winners in the page code, but it is not displayed for me.
https://firstcycling.com/race.php?r=380 - All winners except this one

GAN (talk) 14:32, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer. As I am slowly adding UCI ProSeries races to pl.wiki and also updating a list of winners using module:cycling I have a question about this edition. Why you added Muraglia as a winner? Both memoire-du-cyclisme and cycling archives states that he was disqualified and a first place was left empty. 99kerob (talk) 18:37, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
  • @99kerob: Made it appear strikethrough, like the rest of the disqualified in the absence of redistribution of seats. - GAN (talk) 21:09, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
I think that this way of displaying disqualified cyclist isn't right as it suggest readers that he won it "legally" as any other cyclist. Wouldn't it better to mark that place as declared deserted (as it is done for example for Tour de France editions won by Lance Armstrong - for example Tour de France 2005)? Leaving it as it is without any addition is really confusing. I would even with suggest adding to Muraglia result a end cause - disqualification which will make it even more clear but I see that this way of displaying results isn't used at Wikidata. 99kerob (talk) 06:37, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
  • @99kerob: In the wikidata, the winner now says "final result" - "disqualified". I also added a link to the source.
https://firstcycling.com/race.php?r=129&y=2007&l=1 - winner Muralia, but with an asterisk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Okd9uAi2ZU28gzCJgAn8kwgID769eSsK/view - 2020 Roadbook Officials (page 10), Muralia Winner Without Notes
https://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race_history.asp?raceid=4966 - winner of Vorganov

Here it is more likely to change the module so that it would be possible to display the disqualified strikethrough or instead of them the text "is missing".

element "P2561- nazwa" you can indicate the old race names with years or a shorter name instead of a long one. For example, instead of the World Championship in road cycling - the group race for men is simply “World Championship - PP.” All these names will be displayed in the calendar and the list of team victories. Example https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q670258GAN (talk) 15:32, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

We sent you an e-mailEdit

Hello GAN,

Really sorry for the inconvenience. This is a gentle note to request that you check your email. We sent you a message titled "The Community Insights survey is coming!". If you have questions, email surveys@wikimedia.org.

You can see my explanation here.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:45, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Модуль:Cycling race/stagetitleEdit

Hi. Why don't you use "stagetitle" function at RU Wiki? It allow to show you better information for stages. Can I help to program it and implement it for Giro 2020? Repf72 (talk) 23:19, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

  • @Repf72: Hey. I know about this pattern. But I'm not planning to put it on yet. I support the module and write about races on my own - so far it's a little more convenient without it. When I get to the races, I'll watch it. I am now making seasons of continental tours and new templates for them. You can see them in my drafts HERE and HERE. Counter question - do you use "stageclassification"? Which of the active users of the module in the LUA is well versed besides the Psemdel? — GAN (talk) 22:20, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
@GAN: Hi. Yes, we use a lot "stageclassification" In fact our combo to have documented stages uses stagetitle + stageclassification + generalclasification as you can see for example here. I always talk to Psemdel for bugs and improvements. Repf72 (talk) 00:20, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

UCI America TourEdit

Hi! I know that this edition is right but please don't delete P585 with just a year: I creates artciles about all UCI Continental Circuits using Template:Cycling race/listofwinners and without that parameter outcome at articles is terrible (it for example show's two winners for 2005 and none for 2014 etc.). 99kerob (talk) 19:12, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Q83815024Edit

Hi,

I am not Ok with you about Q83815024 and your modification about Property:P1346. There was never a winner, because the race was called off. So you can't write that Ludo29 (talk) 15:54, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

  • @Ludo29: At the moment, this parameter is responsible for displaying text in at least two more templates based on the module (links for example):
1 tournament calendar - https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCI_World_Tour_f%C3%A9minin_2020
2 list of all races - https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Women%27s_Tour

GAN (talk) 18:30, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Cycling-init-botEdit

Hi Gan, I suppose you created the account on the website? I activated it (gmail blocked my email sending...). Can you just confirm that it is you, so I grant you more rights? Psemdel (talk) 19:00, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

@Psemdel: Yes. :) Can I change the password later? If necessary, I can also specify gmail. — GAN (talk) 19:17, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
It is not your fault, I need to change the mail server obviously, Gmail turns on everytime alone the security settings on and then no more activation email. Nevermind, I do it manually. To change the pass, just go in settings. Psemdel (talk) 19:26, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
Please, don't find too many bugs at once :D. Psemdel (talk) 19:27, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Cycling raceEdit

Hi Gan, I must be blind, but I cannot remember where is your improved code for the module Cycling race? Psemdel (talk) 09:13, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

NetherlandsEdit

Hi! Q55 is just a part of Q29999 (like for example England is a part of UK), second one is represented in all sports events not the first one and should be linked at all national teams. Q55 causes also an error via module at pl.wiki as we don't have separate article about that one thing and it just blows up whole startlist. 99kerob (talk) 21:15, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

  • @99kerob: The Kingdom of the Netherlands also includes Aruba and Curacau. And they have their own national teams and national championships in cycling. Unlike Great Britain, which is represented by a single country in cycling. 19th place is Aruba Or see Marc de Maar - he played for Curacao first, and then for the Netherlands.
    The problem of not displaying the Netherlands (not the Kingdom) in pl-wiki can be solved through redirection. Create a redirect on your pl-wiki to your article about the Kingdom of the Netherlands. I'll do the rest. — GAN (talk) 21:49, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
    • Redirection isn't a solution as these two are not the same thing - give me a few days about that subject and don't correct linking on Wikidata until I will let you know (otherwise some start lists (like for example here) will be broken. I will probably write a short article but I need time to do that. 99kerob (talk) 18:13, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
      • @99kerob: OK. I meant this option. Make a redirect and attach it to Q55. And then set the desired display. — GAN (talk) 18:48, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
        • OK, I created short article about Q55 at pl.wiki so you can reverse linking on Wikidata to the correct version. 99kerob (talk) 09:03, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
          • @99kerob: It won't work that way. This can only be done with a redirect. But your names of countries and national teams are displayed only in text (not articles about them). Therefore, now you will not have bugs if the team has Q55. For example (changed Q29999 to Q55). — GAN (talk) 09:19, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

I actually always wondered what we should use... In French the description for both items don't really help understanding to which one the national team is related. For Great-Britain, no comment, the national team is clearly noted as Great-Britain, but how to fill P17... Half of the time, United-Kingdom is displayed :( . We correct, but some bots keep on "correcting" back. Taiwan was also always a difficult one, that why we introduced P1532. Psemdel (talk) 08:55, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Bycicle modelsEdit

Hello GAN,

do you have a list with Bycicle models. I think it were interesting if the bycicles that were used in races exist as items in Wikidata. I can help you by adding them if you tell me a source for that. --Hogü-456 (talk) 19:37, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

P1813Edit

Hi! Using P1813 at rider's items causes a problem with module - in case of Q24719068 "Марк Падун" was displayed on all Wikis (not only Russian and Ukrainian as it should be) instead of "Mark Padun". 99kerob (talk) 10:07, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

@99kerob: I restored the Russian version, it does not affect the display (checked). Ukrainian influenced. Most likely you need to add the value uk = true to "local slavicWikis = {mk = true, ru = true}"GAN (talk) 10:38, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

2020 / 2021Edit

Hi! UCI season is not a calendar year (January-December) - basic rule is that a new season starts a day after last World Tour race but for both 2020 and 2021 there were some small extensions to it due to COVID (for example 2021 season ends on 31st of October and all races held in November and December are already a part of 2022 season). I know that is weird but UCI like such weird rules ;). 99kerob (talk) 17:07, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

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Tour de France 1985 (Q278715) Edit

Je me permets de modifier ta contribution. Au tour de France 1985, il n'y a pas de classement de meilleur jeune (young rider), il y a un classement du meilleur néophyte (best rookie). Merci de conserver le bon libellé du classement. Cordialement.
No young rider classification in 1985, but a best rookie classification--Toïlev (talk) 09:03, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

  • @Toïlev: I read and write through google translate, so you can write in any language.

1 - Breaks the list of winners by year. And the TOUR takes it into account in the general list of youth classification page 125 {{#invoke:Cycling race|listofwinnerscustom|Q33881|0|0|0||0|1|1|0|1}} - copy to draft in fr-wiki
2 - And why such close attention only in 1985? After all, the Neophytes instead of the Young were from 1983 to 1986. And the TOUR takes it into account in the general list of youth classification. And until 1983, judging by the regulations, it was also not quite youthful.
GAN (talk) 10:44, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

1 - p.125, "À l’origine, le maillot blanc était porté par les coureurs participant pour la première fois au Tour de France." -> Meilleur néophyte et non meilleur jeune
2 - Pourquoi seulement 1985 ? Simplement parce que j'ai eu l'attention porté sur ce Tour. Mais tu as raison bien d'autres Tour de France n'ont pas eu de classement de meilleur jeune mais un classement du meilleur néophyte.--Toïlev (talk) 11:26, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
C'est vrai qu'il s'agissait d'un classement de meilleur néophyte et non de meilleur jeune à l'époque. Mais aux yeux des organisateurs c'est le même classement, seulement les règles et le nom ont changé au fil des temps, chose qui arrive fréquemment. Une meilleure solution qui ne casse pas la base de données serait de récenser les différents noms du classement dans la propriété official name (P1448) de Young rider classification in the Tour de France (Q2254180), avec les dates de validité respectives, comme l'on le fait déjà pour les équipes (exemple). -- Rz98 (talk) 22:41, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
  • @Rz98: Here you also need to take into account the display of this nomination in the race card and its interaction with other templates of this module. {{#invoke:Cycling race|infobox|Q278715}}GAN (talk) 22:55, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

SingaporeEdit

Dear GAN,

It would seem that there is a discrepancy between the UCI code of cycling team (P1998) that we use for Singapore national cycling team (Q99646686) and actual UCI usage. We use SGP but UCI actually uses SIN (example). It seems that the IOC code changed in 2017 from SIN to SGP, and Wikidata followed suite but UCI didn't (at least not yet). Should this be changed? -- Rz98 (talk) 11:49, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

  • @Rz98: Agree. uci.org, Asian Championship 2018 and 2019. Everywhere "SIN". — GAN (talk) 12:45, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
    Alright, I changed the codes (only ten occurrences as far as I could see). Thanks for the links! I will see what I can get out of this. -- Rz98 (talk) 14:09, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Links who when became a member of the UCI: