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Wikinews topic categoriesEdit

Reminder: Wikinews topic categories link to the item for the corresponding en.wp article, not the associated category. --Pi zero (talk) 15:23, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Wikinews categories linked to wikipedia articlesEdit

Hi,

I have seen that you remove wikinews categories on Q42262 please have a look on Wikidata:Wikinews/Development.

Thanks --Mattho69 (talk) 22:18, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@Mattho69: Thank you for the message. Feel free to reverse my edits but please note it is a logic I disagree with. This is a long-standing issue based on misunderstandings on both sides of the argument. The page you linked to is neither a policy nor a guideline. It has been stuck in draft mode for several years, so I see no reason to follow it yet. The section on categories is fundamentally flawed because it attempts to equate Wikinews categories with mainspace pages on other wikis. I have read and heard arguments about why this should be the case but nothing with substance. Every other wiki accepts that categories group related articles and other pages. The equivalent of a published news article is a Wikipedia article. The equivalent of a Wikinews category is a Wikipedia category. I do not see the logic of arguing otherwise. We had a similar problem where some Commons users argued Commons categories were the equivalent of Wikipedia articles. We now have general acceptance that the actual equivalent is a Commons gallery (mainspace pages). Can you tell me why Wikinews categories should be classed with articles from other wikis? Cheers. --Green Giant (talk) 22:48, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
<pardon my dropping in> Topic categories on Wikinews correspond to Wikipedia articles. That's the only thing that makes sense for Wikinews projects; it's unambiguously the natural way to connect Wikipedia articles with Wikinews pages. As has been noted, this is not the only case where non-mainspace pages on a non-Wikipedian sister are associated with mainspace Wikipedia pages; another such is Wikisource author space. I fix these when I see them; the number of Wikinews categories I've moved to the items of corresponding Wikipedia articles over the years must be something extraordinary, all told, though the inherently centralization-oriented platform design atm only allows me to occasionally discover such things semi-randomly. --Pi zero (talk) 02:43, 10 June 2020 (UTC)