Hi! I noticed that, when you create a property you just use the English label and description provided in the proposal. In the future, may you look at all labels and description provided in the proposal? Thanks.
New properties' labels and descriptions
If there are any, I will do that. However, today I also added descriptions for three properties that had none in any language. So it cancels out, I think.
If you're interested in getting new ressources to enhance and establish more robust standards in Wikidata, take a look to the grant programme from WMCH . One particular idea I had for example revolved around enhancing the description of epigraphs in Switzerland, trying to create those items to their full potentials.
My attention has since been diverted to other initiatives. However, you have the opportunity to seek additional funding and receive full support from the Swiss chapter, think about it.
I will be in Switzerland this November for the upcoming GLAM-on-Tour event. If you decide to submit a proposal, I will be available for discussions and can provide insights, and discuss with the staff there. I'm uncertain about the specific rules governing the grant system because I mainly apply for direct projects through the WMCH Innovation programe so I don't use it a lot, but I can ask around if you have some idea.
Thank you for this valuable hint, Alex! I will look into the program and see if I'm eligible as a German citizen and resident. I don't know if I can make it in person to the GLAM event (it's in Lugano, right?), though it would be nice to meet you.
The glam event in Lugano is scheduled as follow
|2023-11-23 18:00||2023-11-26 14:00||GLAM-on-Tour Swiss National Sound Archives|
I'm copying this information from a "technical" page, but I'm not certain if I can provide the direct link. It's possible that the content is already publicly available on Meta, although I'm not actively following it there. In general I attend all WMCH GLAM-on-tour events but I know them in advance form the staff while we talk about many issues.
However, you're welcome to attend future GLAM events in other parts of Switzerland in any case. The Wikimedia Chapter in Switzerland (WMCH) covers your hotel and food expenses. However please note that, as of now, train tickets are not reimbursed if you're traveling from Germany. I'm advocating for a change in this policy, as it was different in the past.
About the grant, they gave money even in Brazil, as long as it is related to something "Swiss" you can get them. So if you have an idea, test it in Switzerland and it should be fine.
CIL 3, 3576
Hi Jonathan, es geht um die Inschrift, die im Artikel w:de:Magister militum in Anmerkung 137 mit Literatur verlinkt ist. Magst Du ein Item erstellen? Am schönsten wäre es, wenn wir ein freies Foto hätten, aber da müsste man wohl die Kollegen in Budapest alarmieren...
So hier modelliere ich das: Francus inscription (Q123019623). Die CIL-Links lösen nicht auf, aber es gibt zum Glück viele Datenbanken für Inschriften im Internet.
Die Fotos bei lupa.at unterliegen dem Urheberrechtsschutz, also müsste man tatsächlich um Freigabe bitten.
About property DBIL ID
Hello, I'm writing to you because you are the creator of identificador DBIL (P12060) and I'm trying to figure out why it doesn't link to the dictionary when the property is added in an item. I'll really appreciate if you could help me with this. Thanks. ~~~~
Hi! It should work soon, give it a few hours.
It works for me now, after purging the page from cache. Give it a try.
Q26214208 - Menge von Figuren der griechischen Mythologie
Hi Jonathan, I'm seeing that you are creating some items with this P31. As far as I know those items exists solely to accomodate some Wikipedia pages, especially on the English Wikipedia, that are basically disambiguation page with a single topic in scope. I'm thus not really convince that we should bother to have one for each case in the absence of a Wikipedia page.
I think these set indices are very useful for gathering and distinguishing homonyms. I know of at least two examples where these set indices are used outside of Wikidata, even without sitelinks.
I believe if two or more characters (deities, heroes and heroines, horses, monsters...) share the same name, a set index can (and should) be created.
Do you have those examples at hand? I'm interested in seeing them.
Abdera (Q122035270) is just the first example that comes to mind.
Sorry, I meant the use outside of Wikidata.
I am currently going through the corresponding enwiki category from A to Z to clean up our items on Wikidata. Turn out there are some set indices incorrectly labelled as disambiguation pages or individuals. A recent example for the latter is Alce (Q4727676) which is for an individual deity but its sitelink to enwiki was the link to a set index.
For use outside of Wikidata: MANTO and Mythoskop are two projects that incorporate links to Wikidata and try to find corresponding items. This process is much easier thanks to our set indices.
I'm more surprised by the fact that you have the motivation to go through the category than the items being mismodelled. :D Thanks !
You're welcome :) Working alongside fine chaps like you is a pleasure.
BTW The hope that this database might become more useful through this is my main motivation. Next comes my love for mythology. Then my gatherer gene. And somewhere below all that, my ego.
We might be sharing some traits then, though my love is more on history and bibliography. I dream of modelling the whole Roman imperial administration, but that won't come any time soon.
Take it easy with the depicted by (P1299)
Better do the inverse (P180).
I noticed your edits on Q63092036#P1299. depicted by (P1299) is a curated property like image (P18). We don't list everything, just a selection. It shouldn't be a complete list. You might enjoy Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Top mythological art main subjects. I have a report at Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Mythological painting/Suggestions/Label to make it easier to match paintings. It's a bit rough so be careful with what you match.
I appreciate your coming forward, but I don't understand why we shouldn't link items in this way. What's the acceptable alternative? Linking the event with "depicts" in the painting items without the inverse?
It's an 1:n problem and data duplication. It's just like wedding of Peleus and Thetis (Q63092036) should have a image (P18) statement, not a huge list. Can you select a nice picture for that? Seems to be missing. In these cases you can use main subject (P921) to link. On top of that you can also use depicts (P180), but that should be a longer list of the things that you see in the painting.
What is 1:n?
And how is choosing a random image better than connecting all depictions to the item?
Okay, after sleeping on it I think I understand what you were trying to tell me. I've done as you suggested and removed P1299 completely from Q63092036 as well.
BTW, thanks a bunch for the list in your first post. It hits just the spot :)
Have a great week!
De aetatibus mundi et hominis
Hallo Jonathan, du hast das Werk Über die Welt- und Menschenalter (Q121169705) dem Bischof und Kirchenschriftsteller Fulgentius von Ruspe (Q380089) zugeordnet. Laut GND 4798693-1 stammt das Werk dagegen von Fabius Planciades Fulgentius (Q932714).
Hallo Kolja, das war in der Tat ein Fehler. Ich habe die Aussage im Werk jetzt korrigiert. Der Autor wurde lange Zeit identifiziert mit dem Bischof von Ruspe, aber die communis opinio ist in der Tat, das es zwei verschiedene Personen sind.
Using authority control.js
Always double-check GND when using AuthorityControl.js!
Hallo Jonathan, danke für die Einfügung von Normdaten. Ein Tipp: Authority control.js ist hilfreich, aber leider auch fehlerhaft. GNDs liest das Tool im falschen VIAF-Feld aus, siehe User talk:Magnus Manske/authority control.js#GND format. Die IDs hinter denen ein Blitz erscheint, muss man von Hand korrigieren. Beispiel: Q3395604#P227 = VIAF, Feld 024 (GND 4504006-0) statt Feld 035.
Hallo Kolja, danke für den Hinweis; ich werde mal drauf achten.
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Kieler Gelehrtenverzeichnis ID
Just found on your user page "Kieler Gelehrtenverzeichnis" to be listed under "Could be linked in Wikidata". There is now a Property_proposal: Authority_control#Kieler_Gelehrtenverzeichnis_ID.
Thanks for telling me. It's good to see others picking up good ideas.