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Taketa (talk) 18:22, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

LafayetteEdit

Hello Kostas,

My name is Alex Labat, Director of Online Engagement with Lafayette Travel. I was the one recently editing the Lafayette Wikidata page, and I'm hoping I might be able to explain myself in the hopes I might be able to clear things up, and hoping you might be able to help me in finally fixing an issue that has persisted for years.

I am attempting to update the Freebase/Wikidata information for Lafayette in order to reconcile an error that has been persisting on Facebook for months.

This stems from Facebook pointing to LafayetteLa.gov as the "official website" for the city of Lafayette. However, Lafayette Travel is the main website for the Lafayette Convention and Visitors Commission. We handle "visitors" both online and offline. Festivals, Events, Historical and Hotel information, our website "is" the main resource for the city, its list of local businesses as a directory and handles all major events.

While I understand the argument that the city government maintains a presence, its causing major reconciliation issues for us. For example, we are now an official partner and Google DMO. When visitors are looking to call for any information about our area, they call us. If they are visiting the city for official information, they come to the Visitor's Center. The Lafayette Convention and Visitor's Commission is a government agency that works on behalf of lafayettela.gov. In fact, you can see our website on the main page. As such, I have been attempting as an official with the city of Lafayette to update this information appropriately and correctly, as to not cause these "spam cloud" issues.

But. We operate the Facebook Page and online presence for the city of Lafayette, Louisiana. However, because lafayettela.gov is listed as the resource, here is what has happened.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lafayette-Louisiana/109690282390922

If you scroll down on the page, you'll notice it has close to 50,000 likes and checkins. Here is the issue. This page was auto-generated and I believe it is from the Wikipedia dump of 2013. Either that, or, Facebook searched city names with .gov after it and generated the page from there.

I say this with the utmost confidence because, it you look at the Graph API Explorer for Facebook and plug in this page, what will return is this schema

{

 "url": "http://www.lafayettela.gov/Pages/Index.aspx",
 "type": "website",
 "title": "Home",
 "image": [
   {
     "url": "http://www.lafayettela.gov/SiteAssets/Images/lcg-logo.png"
   },
   {
     "url": "http://www.lafayettela.gov/SiteAssets/Images/pay-online.png"
   },
   {
     "url": "http://www.lafayettela.gov/SiteAssets/Images/services.png"
   },
   {
     "url": "http://www.lafayettela.gov/SiteAssets/Images/calendar.png"
   },
   {
     "url": "http://www.lafayettela.gov/SiteAssets/Images/media-center.png"
   },
   {
     "url": "http://www.lafayettela.gov/SiteAssets/Images/departments.png"
   },
   {
     "url": "http://www.lafayettela.gov/SiteAssets/Images/info.png"
   },
   {
     "url": "http://www.lafayettela.gov/SiteAssets/Images/search-icon.png"
   },
   {
     "url": "http://www.lafayettela.gov/_layouts/images/gosearch15.png"
   },
   {
     "url": "http://www.lafayettela.gov/SiteAssets/Images/media-image.png"
   },
   {
     "url": "http://www.lafayettela.gov/SiteAssets/Images/Facebook-Icon.png"
   },
   {
     "url": "http://www.lafayettela.gov/SiteAssets/Images/Twitter-Icon.png"
   },
   {
     "url": "http://www.lafayettela.gov/SiteAssets/Images/Instagram_Icon.png"
   }
 ],
 "description": "CALENDAR | PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST | DISCLAIMER | PRIVACY POLICY | CONTACT US | REQUEST A SERVICE | PHONE DIRECTORY",
 "updated_time": "2018-02-03T22:36:14+0000",
 "id": "710314745654174"

}

If you compare this with the google search for lafayette.gov

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=6UB2Wu7sMtCUjwOGqZOACg&q=lafayette.gov&oq=lafayette.gov&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0j0i10k1j0l5j0i10k1j0l2.614.4628.0.4751.14.9.0.0.0.0.579.879.3-1j0j1.2.0....0...1c.1j2.64.psy-ab..12.2.879...46j0i46k1.0.rso7xY9iFMw

You will see that this is how the Facebook Page is constructing itself. It is utilzing the wikidata entry /Q128891 along with Freebase.

https://m.facebook.com/pages/Lafayette-Louisiana/109690282390922

The profile image, the information, everything is auto generated. But the page has sat stagnant because no one has realized what was happening. People are checking into a place and page that technically "doesn't exist" because it isn't tied to the correct page. I know this, because Las Vegas has their Visitor's Center page listed as a City, with the canonical URL pointing to the place.

So, I need to update this entry, as well as the freebase entry so that Facebook can recrawl it, carrying over all of the appropriate information. Pointing to photos, information, etc. I want to ensure I do this the right way, and I am looking into the article you sent.

We'd mainly need the website lafayettela.gov to now be lafayettetravel.com instead. I'd like to add additional information, like the citied official social networks, but I'll take one step at a time. I was going to attempt the fix with OpenRefine but I wanted to come here first. Any help you might be able to offer in helping me submit updated information would help me fix an issue no one else has been able to solve

Alexlabat (talk) 23:30, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

WD:RfDEdit

Hazard-bot only recognises a few templates to archive. Those are {{Deleted}}, {{Done}}, {{Not deleted}} and {{Not done}}. Any other template is ignored. That's why I've added a not deleted to your withdrawn. Mbch331 (talk) 15:02, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

@Mbch331: Ok, thanks for your help! --Kostas20142 (talk) 15:07, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
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