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Wrong OLID Assigned Twice

@Hardwigg: Your bot has re-added the same incorrect value to the item for a book my grandfather wrote, even after I marked that value deprecated with a reason qualifier. Please adjust your bot so that such readditions do not occur again. Mahir256 (talk) 01:01, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Mahir256: Thank you for the report. The bot uses ISBN to determine what Open Library ID to assign. It looks like the isbn 978-984-510-002-1 (or 9845100023 as an ISBN-10) is associated with another book on Open Library, Library of Congress, and OCLC. If you have a copy of your grandfather's book, could you confirm that the ISBN is 978-984-510-002-1 ? It's rare for an ISBN to be used twice, but not impossible :) I created an issue on GitHub to add this book to a skiplist to prevent the bot from editing it again, and will implement it before the bot runs again on 29 Jan. Happy New Year! -Hardwigg (talk) 01:31, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

@Hardwigg: Happy New Year to you too! Yes, I can confirm that that's the ISBN printed in the inside front cover of that book. You may wish, rather than hardcoding individual exceptions within your bot runs, to check for the existence of the same identifier on the item in the first place before attempting to edit it, as deprecating with a reason qualifier is the desired modus operandi for handling incorrect values which otherwise come from oft-used sources. Mahir256 (talk) 01:57, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

@Mahir256: Ah, thank you for checking! Actually, I found an even better solution. I created a record for the book on Open Library: OL31873153M, and linked Q97466344 to it. My bot only looks for Wikidata entities which don't already have an Open Library ID, so it should not try to add that other, wrong ID again. I'd rather avoid using "deprecated" in this case, because the Open Library ID was never in any way correct, so not too sure what value it provides to have that sticking around (especially now that a correct Open Library ID exists). Cheers! --Hardwigg (talk) 16:48, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Wrong IDs for Loeb volumes on Menander

The bot added the same (wrong) ID to three different publications: [1] [2] [3]. The ID appears to be a 1957 publication by the same author but with different content, or possibly a collective title for three volumes, all with different dates different content, different volume numbers in the Loeb Classics series, and different ISBNs. The cataloging situation is badly muddled. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:11, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

It also added an ID here [4] to a book with different editors, publisher, ISBN, and year of publication. The only similarity is the first word of the title, but the listing in OpenLibrary seems to think it is a different edition of the same work and lists the editor from the Loeb series, who was not involved with this publication. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:49, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi @EncycloPetey:, thanks for the report. That certainly is a mess. I cleaned up those 4 cases on Open Library; once the bot runs again on the 28th it will associate them with the correct identifiers. Cheers --Hardwigg (talk) 01:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

I've noticed that many OL books that consist of translations of classical works are a mess. Thanks for taking the time to clean up those items. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:55, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Adding OLID for items for which no borrowable item exists.

I observe at Special:Diff/1739129005 added OL5253681M to the item Locomotion (Q114260807) despite there being no borrowable item behind it; wither free or with registration. However this means that my use of {{Cite Q|Q114260807}} in Simple:Railway speed record and Simple:Train had an OL parameter with a link showing which simply results in disappointment with no accessible book at the other end of it. Where is a borrowable item at the end of it I have added OL myself and that works quite well, such as at The World's Fastest Trains (Q114240421) - (OL OL8975351M) - Simple:Train. @Pigsonthewing / Mike Peel for any comment. Thankyou. (NB I'm indef blocked on English Wikipedia and usually most wikidata stuff is Irish/Gaelic Wikipedia) related via my alt. account Deirge Ó Dhaoinebeaga, but this is Cite Q/simple English Wikipedia related and that is usually Djm-leighpark's domain). Thankyou -- User:Djm-leighpark_(a)^talk 06:39, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

@Djm-leighpark: I suspect there isn't an easy solution here. The authority control ID is perfectly valid, since the library has an entry for the publication. Cite Q has no way to tell if it has publications or not. Perhaps a qualifier, using something like quantity (P1114), could somehow record the number of items available on OL? If the bot operator was willing to do that. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 10:07, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

@Mike Peel:: Thanks for replying Mike. Before I was indefinitely blacked on the English Wikipedia I was in the habit of using the OL parameter to cite book only when public domain work or borrowable work was available from open library, on not including it if it wasn't. I had noticed one of my cite books being converted to a cite Q so that's how I became aware of it. One of my interest area's was Irish Railway History (and to a degree railways in general) and had gradually updated en:Bibliography of Irish rail transport noting which resources were available from open library. All open library works also have an alternative candidate key of the URL of the work so setting url (& url-access=registration if necessary) was a redundant item I didn't bother to do. With loss of access to the English Wikipedia I (or alt. Deirge) had been loading book information to Wikidata, Deirge doing some work on a cite book-en template on the Gaelic Wikipedia (which doesn't have Cite Q), though that Wiki does do a fair bit of Wikidata leverage. Anyway as attempting to change this bot will likely go nowhere I have tried use of ISCO-88 occupation class (P952) on Trains (Q114349743) to [https://archive.org/details/trains0000murr the Internet Archive URL| which per Simple:User:Djm-leighpark/B Jullie Murray (2015) is pointing to the right resource. There remaining issue for this approproach is url-access should be set to registration, I'm guessing a qualifier to P953 would be needed for that. (I guess for public domain works ol-access should be set to free). Thanks. -- User:Djm-leighpark_(a)^talk 22:04, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

I've just realised setting online access status (P6954) to {{Q|Q107459441)} or {{Q|24707952)} in conjunction with full work available at URL (P953) will do what I effectively want, at least from a WikiBooks viewpoint, I think. -- User:Djm-leighpark_(a)^talk 23:12, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Greek drama - not a match

The ID linked in this edit is not a match. Please see the item that was linked, which is an mix of multiple editions. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:57, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

The ID linked in this edit is not a match. Please see the item that was linked, which is an mix of multiple editions. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:59, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

The ID linked in this edit is not a match. Please see the item that was linked, which is an mix of multiple editions. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:03, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

The ID linked in this edit is not a match. Please see the item that was linked, which is an mix of multiple editions. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:04, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

The ID linked in this edit is not a match. Please see the item that was linked, which is an mix of multiple editions. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:06, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

The ID linked in this edit is not a match. Please see the item that was linked, which is an mix of multiple editions. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:07, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

The ID linked in this edit is not a match. Please see the item that was linked, which is an mix of multiple editions. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:08, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

The ID linked in this edit is not a match. Please see the item that was linked, which is an mix of multiple editions. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:09, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

The ID linked in this edit is not a match. Please see the item that was linked, which is an mix of multiple editions. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:10, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

The ID linked in this edit is not a match. Please see the item that was linked, which is an mix of multiple editions. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:12, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

The ID linked in this edit is not a match. Please see the item that was linked, which is an mix of multiple editions. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:13, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

The ID linked in this edit is not a match. Please see the item that was linked, which is an mix of multiple editions. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:14, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

The ID linked in this edit is not a match. Please see the item that was linked, which is an mix of multiple editions. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:15, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

The ID linked in this edit is not a match. Please see the item that was linked, which is an mix of multiple editions. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:16, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

The ID linked in this edit is not a match. Please see the item that was linked, which is an mix of multiple editions. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:16, 3 March 2023 (UTC)