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DeltaBot created wrong claim (league level below)

Swotty22 (talkcontribs)

Hi, I want to inform that the DeltaBot created a league level below statement which is wrong. I think there is a condition missing in the code. The oberserved case:

The 2. Ringer-Bundesliga (Q210405) was a league below the Ringer-Bundesliga (Q480019). It was suspended in 2017 (c.f. Auflösungsdatum at Q210405). Hence it should not be attached as the league level below of the still existing 1. Bundesliga.

I think the Bot should check the dissolved, abolished or demolished date statement (P576) before adding a league to another one. If the property is set, the link should not be set (at least not in the particular case).

Pasleim (talkcontribs)

I think the edit made by DeltaBot is a ok because the statement is true for the time period 1970-2017. But I've added end time (P582) qualifier to the league level below (P2500) claim to make it clear that it is today no longer valid.

Swotty22 (talkcontribs)

Sorry, I didn't know that there is a possibility for adding the qualifier end time. This is of course the better solution for this case. Thank you for taking care of it. :)

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MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Hey Pasleim, the page_deleted lists have been incomplete recently due to a huge page size that made them inaccessible. Can you re-run the bot for the entire February 2021 (i.e. starting at 00:00 on Feb 1)? Thanks!

Pasleim (talkcontribs)

I added the missing entries. It has now become quite a long list.

MisterSynergy (talkcontribs)

Thanks. I will work on it in the next days, but I will probably shuffle the cases around a bit—either to a local file or to a separate page. I just need to know them, which is the case now.

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Universal Code of Conduct consultation

Sannita (WMF) (talkcontribs)

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Lange Ladedauer von HarvestTemplates-Listen nach Klick auf "Load"

M2k~dewiki (talkcontribs)

Hallo Pasleim,

vielen Dank für das Tool HarvestTemplates!

Seit der letzten Migration (Anfang 2020) habe ich bei einigen Vorlagen das Problem, dass die Ergebnislisten nach Klick auf "Load" teilweise erst nach sehr langer Zeit oder im manchen Fällen gar nie kommen, obwohl die zu überprüfenden Kategorien teilweise nur wenige Einträge beinhalten.


Vielen Dank!

Pasleim (talkcontribs)

Ich habe während den letzten Wochen einige Verbesserungen im Hintegrund vorgenommen.

Deine Listen sollten nun schneller geladen werden.

M2k~dewiki (talkcontribs)

Hallo Pasleim, vielen Dank!

Besteht die Möglichkeit des Importes von geographischen Koordinaten beispielsweise aus de:Vorlage:Coordinate oder diversen Infoboxen mit HarvestTemplates (oder anderen Programmen)?

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"based on" as a means of exclusion for merge candidate

Summary by Billinghurst


Billinghurst (talkcontribs)

Hi. I am seeing this suggestion for merge

  1. Q59291518 (s:en:Ben Bolt) and Q104179259 (en:Ben Bolt)

the enWP article/item has a "based on (P144)" reference to the poem (enWS versions page). Would it be possible to have an exclusion from a merge suggestion when that "based on" relationship is in place. I have just added the inverse relationship of "derivative work" though would prefer that the maintenance requirement should be second priority to merge candidates.

If "derivative work (P4969)" could be similarly treated if present would also be great for the reverse.

Thanks for the consideration.

Pasleim (talkcontribs)

I implemented it.

Statistics page is no longer updated

Gnoeee (talkcontribs)


It's showing the bot is updating the India statistics page. But only the time is getting updated in that page but not the values from the last April. Can you pls check that.

Pasleim (talkcontribs)
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Powerek38 (talkcontribs)

Hi! I'd like to ask you about a few things related to Harvest Templates, which I've been happily using for years:

  1. After the move to Toolforge, I haven't been able to do perform sucessfully any HT runs with P131. Is it working correctly?
  2. Would it be possible to set the tool only to scan WD element from a certain range of Q numbers, for example starting with Q80000000 and scanning everything created later? It would save me a lot of time, as I could scan only the latest wiki articles.
  3. Can you see any chance at all for the tool to understand ISO codes of countries when scanning for P17 or P27, such as POL for Poland, GBR for Britain etc.?

Cheers. ~~~~

Pasleim (talkcontribs)

Hi Powerek38,

  1. To perform runs on strongly used propertes, e.g. P31, P17, P131, has always been a challenge. The migration has not changed this. To make it easier to perform such runs, you can deactivate the checkbox "do not load items with property set".
  2. The latest wiki articles are not necessarily connected to a high Q number on Wikidata. That's why the tool sorts the elements according to the last edit on Wikipedia. If you perform the same run twice, you can stop the second run as soon as you see an article which wasn't changed since the first run.
  3. That requires some major changes to the code. I will check what is possible.
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DrThneed (talkcontribs)

Please be careful of gendered language. I just changed "businessman" to "businesswoman" in the description on this page relating to a woman Q2419519 but if you are going to run a bot that covers descriptions for men and women you should use neutral terms like businessperson, don't you think? Thanks. ~~~

Edoderoo (talkcontribs)

I don't think ''businessperson'' is an existing word in English right now. If it's only a usuallity to use the word for activistic groups, then it's too early to be used on Wikimedia.

DrThneed (talkcontribs)

Well that was just a suggestion, but it certainly isn't correct to use businessman for a woman so you need to find something else.

DrThneed (talkcontribs)
Pasleim (talkcontribs)

I imported this description from English Wikipedia where it was stored in the persondata template .

However, this import took place over five years ago and I have not imported more descriptions from English Wikipedia since then.

DrThneed (talkcontribs)

I see - thanks for the clarification about where it came from. It's not the only time I have seen male language applied to women in descriptions, I wonder if they all came from this import.

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Olaf2 (talkcontribs)

Hallo! Deine interessante Statistik „Connectivity“ wird leider nicht mehr aktualisiert. Siehst Du eine Chance sie wieder zum laufen zu bringen?––~~~~

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FERNANDES Gilbert (talkcontribs)

Hello, I can't find the property for the Korean National library [http://viaf.org/viaf/partnerpages/KRNLK.html see viaf info]. Does it existe in WP, sould it be created ? I found the P4760, but it's not the same. Thanks,

Justus Nussbaum (talkcontribs)
  1. I've normally never seen problems about transfering KRNLK-ID from VIAF into Wikidata. Have you seen a serious change as for that?
  2. Might be another case of the fact that original korean scripture will produce some difficulties for our translating into western languages?
FERNANDES Gilbert (talkcontribs)

I was looking for the WP Propertie for KRNLK-ID . And I did not found it. Thanks your andswer, I got it ! [Property:P5034]. Thank you !

Justus Nussbaum (talkcontribs)

The 'National Library of Korea ID' is P5034. In English also known as

  • NLK ID
  • KAC ID

As I just checked it is fully functional /working. But alas: it points to contents in korean language only. Example given: [http://www.nl.go.kr/authorities/KAC199626381#n Steinbeck, John - KAC199626381].

Hope it helps nevertheless. Best wishes!

FERNANDES Gilbert (talkcontribs)

Yes, it's OK for me. Thanks.

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