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Best regards! --Tobias1984 (talk) 14:44, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

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Babel lets you view and edit more than one language on Wikidata. Just add e.g. {{#babel:de-N|en-3|es-1|fr-2|nl-3|it-4|da-0}} to your user page. With the same language codes you can add links to your userpage on Wikipedia e.g. de:User:User123. --Tobias1984 (talk) 14:44, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Personal recordEdit

Hi! I've added this property to some hundred ski jumpers and I have included it in an infobox template (see: Andreas Stjernen). The problem starts when an athlete has several personal records, like Usain Bolt. I've tried to figure out if these parameters is in use anywhere, without success. If you had any considerations about the use of this property, please let me know. --Cavernia (talk) 08:30, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

@Cavernia: Hi there. I have also looked into this idea and struggled. en:Module:WikidataIB seems to be able to fetch qualifier data, but only for specific items and where the parent piece of data is an item and not a value (like for personal best). I find it quite surprising that a query wrapper has not yet been written for this concept. I work with relational databases and I would be massively impaired if I was stuck at the first level of data, like we are here. Sadly, Lua is not a language I'm familiar with ): Sillyfolkboy (talk) 21:56, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
So why are we using qualifiers then? To impress the other contributors? I can't see any value in something that couln't be fetched from other wikis. I also tried to understand Lua, but it's too confusing for me as well. I'll see if I can get in touch with a contributor with better Lua skills. --Cavernia (talk) 22:07, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
@Cavernia: We're adding qualifiers because it's still valid data that can be extracted if the right person makes that possible. I see no reason why this data couldn't be used to automatically generate tables of personal bests, for example. The biggest barrier to achieving this is the current ban on German and English Wikipedias of doing such things - essentially, there is no incentive for people from the two most technically developed Wikipedia userbases to do this work yet. That is a real shame, and an issue that the Foundation should consider a significant issue for future development of all things Wiki. The only advice I can give is to rally support for this functionality at the next version of the meta:2016 Community Wishlist Survey. I will 100% support you in that. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 19:27, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
OK, I didn't know about this strong restistance against fetching data directly from Wikidata. I'll try to address it in Community Wishlist Survey 2017. --Cavernia (talk) 11:59, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
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