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Bonvenon al Wikidata! – Welcome to Wikidata!Edit

Welcome Wolverène/2014—2017! You may add some help tools to user:Wolverène/2014—2017/common.js . Please see User:Rotsaert8000 (in Esperanto), Wikidata:Tools, and Wikidata:Tools/User scripts. On the user:i18n-page you will see all WD gadget links. It takes time to see what fits most of your interests. Good luck gangLeri לערי ריינהארט (talk) 21:15, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Category:Members of the Russian Orthodox Church (Q14201499)Edit

Почему вы отделили белорусскую и русскую статью? --Infovarius (talk) 07:30, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

  • Здравствуйте. Вы чувствуете разницу между деятелями Церкви и её последователями вообще? Это не одно и то же, поэтому и разделил. Можно попробовать объединить элементы заново, но едва ли это будет корректно. --Adriano Morelli (talk) 12:39, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Русскую и белорусскую интервики я объединил в один элемент, если что. И ещё один аргумент - под "Russian Orthodox Christians" можно понимать и последователей православной Церкви в России (РПЦ или любой другой), и последователей РПЦ со всего мира, не только россиян. Деятели православия в России - это всё-таки более узкие критерии включения. --Adriano Morelli (talk) 12:41, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Слабо чувствую. Может, для того, чтобы стало понятнее, приведёте примеры 2 человек, которые являются одним и не являются другим? --Infovarius (talk) 06:42, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
    • Я вас не понимаю. Что одно и что другое? Давайте так: все ли православные христиане России являются деятелями православной церкви? --Adriano Morelli (talk) 07:25, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
      • Мне кажется, в контексте Википедии, - да. Иначе не стоит персону категоризовать как православного христианинка, если он(а) не деятель в этой области. --Infovarius (talk) 12:43, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
        • Это в контексте русской Википедии скорее. Потому что в английской как раз таки и включают в вышеуказанную категорию всех, кто называл себя православным. Ну скажем, какая-нибудь певица публично заявила, что является православной, и в статью о ней включат в соответствующую категорию (деятельницей её при этом как-то не назовёшь). В русской Википедии подобная категоризация запрещена. Связать всё вместе, как я уже сказал, можно и я почти не против, но будет неточно. К тому же нет гарантий, что в отдалённом будущем категоризация по религиозному/мировоззренческому признаку не будет включена в --Adriano Morelli (talk) 14:16, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

No "Russophobic"Edit

Avoid calling things like the "Do not buy Russian goods!" campaign "Russophobic". That is POV-pushing. --AmaryllisGardener talk 15:02, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

That is true. --Adriano Morelli (talk) 10:19, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

please don't vandalize …?Edit

Hi Adriano, not sure about Wikidata, but is en:WP:Assume good faith one of the pillars here, too? I checked the sitelinks for ru:Википедия:Форум/Справочное бюро, which is not a site, but a soft redirect (which means: there is no page in ru.wp like a „reference desk“ for general questions). Apparently the correct link for ru:Википедия:Форум/Вопросы is Q4026300 (Helpdesk), not Q3907025 (reference desk). When I understand correctly, „Вопросы, не относящиеся к работе над Википедией, будут удаляться.“ means even that they don't want general questions there. So there is not even a 1:n-relation for this interwiki. --Elya (talk) 21:04, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

I fixed it again plus added some description and the soft redirect for ru.wp non-existing reference desk to Q3907025, so it might be clearer now, although I don't see much sense in it ;-) Regards,--Elya (talk) 17:40, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
  • I take my words back, don't have objections anymore. --Adriano Morelli (talk) 17:48, 24 March 2015 (UTC)


Please read the english article en:Chelidonium. It is clearly about the species. That is why I changed the interwiki linking from being to (from) the genus, to being to the species. You changed that back so that the english article about the species is linked to articles about the genus. --Ettrig (talk) 15:49, 22 October 2015 (UTC)


Add incubator link archives pages. --忍者ポップ (talk) 16:55, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

  • You mean adding to the list of Featured wikis? Probably impossible, Wy/ta is not active enough. --Ghiutun 07:54, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Schauspiller [title for the archive]Edit

Hi, Schauspiller in Luxemburgish is the English male actor or may be the generic for both, male an female. But ass the Luxemburgish category has the meaning -- male actor -- please let it so. -- Les Meloures (talk) 10:47, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

  • I'm seeing the tendency in the lbwp -- the linking "Kategorie:X'esch Schauspiller" with common categories of actors. If we'd like to associate such categories with ones of male actors, we should do it everywhere.
Then for example lb:Kategorie:Mexikanesch Schauspiller should be associated with Q15218792 and not with Q7012872 as now. And so on and not just with actors. What do you think about it? The tendency of linking should be unified. --Wolverène (talk) 11:56, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
I agree with you that it should be donne for al category. But for every action there is a beginning, and int the beginning these male cuts didn't exist on wikidata. There is also a constant evolution, that we shall follow. We are in the same case as the french wiki, they seperate but have no overhead cat. --Les Meloures (talk) 13:47, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
OK, then I'll re-link categories today or tomorrow.
About the overhead categorization -- is it really needed or not in case of the lb?
I have a variant: male actors -> Schauspiller, female actors -> Schauspillerinnen, [just] actors -> Schauspiller no der alphabetescher Uerdnung (incl. by both nationality and by ABC). So these can include both men and women. The ruwp is using the similar categorization, e.g. Q9426612. Just if it has a sense, I can't come up with other ideas. Greetings, --Wolverène (talk) 14:20, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

I think that we dodn't need en overhead cat for the actors by sexual difference. In case of, I would like to ask the community to choose a title. But actually I think there is no need. --Les Meloures (talk) 14:35, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Yep, actually it's almost certainly an excessive categorization... --Wolverène (talk) 14:40, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Reuse itemsEdit

Please don't reuse items on Wikidata, it is highly discouraged. Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 13:29, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

  • That's in vain. I can understand the situations when the redirects are in use (e.g. in a discussion page). Why it should be wrong in the cases when a redirect item never been used? These don't bring good. --Wolverène (talk) 17:55, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

OK. Since now I promise not to perform reuse anymore. I might be threatened with a block, and I wouldn't resist it. I see it causes kind of panic so I feel upset. --Wolverène (talk) 18:40, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

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