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-- Ę-oиė  >>>  ™ 04:31, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Församlingar och socknarEdit

Jag ser att du slagit samman en handfull objekt om socknar med motsvarande objekt för församling. Socknar och kyrkliga församlingar är olika saker bör därför ha separata objekt, så jag menar att sammanslagningarna bör återställas, inte minst eftersom Wikipedia har separata artiklar. Men jag vill dock höra från dig om det fanns någon god anledning eller diskussion bakom sammanslagningarna innan jag fortsätter. Väsk (talk) 05:25, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

ja jag tyck ha skapat sallad som jag itne utna vidare kan reda ut. Urpsunget var att det fanns artiklar på nn som felaktigt var kopplade till församlingar när de skulle vara koppllade till den svenska socknartikeln.Yger (talk) 05:49, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
Okej, tycker det verkar som att du lyckades återskapa ordningen efter en stund. Väsk (talk) 06:30, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Merge itemsEdit

Hi. Please look into Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets, there are two useful gadegts for merging [duplicated] items and for moving sitelinks from one item to another. I'm writing this to you because I saw recently some for which few months ago you moved manually svwiki sitelinks from the new bot-created duplicated items (created for connecting sv & ceb articles) into the already existent right items, while the cebwiki sitelinks remained lonely in these new items. The most correct action in such case (when both items are 100 % about the same subject) is to merge them. --XXN, 15:13, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

thanks, I will try to do so in future cases.Yger (talk) 15:16, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

RevertEdit

Hi Yger. User:Kotlenci added the following text to your user page, and I'm moving it here. --YMS (talk) 10:31, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Good morning Yger

You reverted the cancellation of ~~Rummenz~~`s submission of a date of birth for Angelique Rockas on Wikidata which is incorrect. Do you speak German or translated what is on the German Wikipedia entry for Angelique Rockas : it states "geboren in den 1950er Jahren". Do you know what that means? born in the 1950s , which can mean anything between 1951 to 1959.

Can you please either try and a find a way to state this on Wikidata , or remove the date of birth entry totally please. ~~Kotlenci~~

I have done nothing to that item, at all. I only deleted the entry on svwp, as the third sysop doing this, as it was a bad machine translation.Yger (talk) 10:35, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Språkinställning på WikidataEdit

Hejsan, jag misstänker att du har engelska som språkinställning i Wikidata. Ett tips är att ändra till svenska, görs här, för att får svenska i gränssnittet. Det underlättar också när du matar in data. När du stoppade in area (P2046) för Indalsälvens delta (Q55462704) (Indalsälvens delta) så blev det knas eftersom 20,136 tolkades som tjugotusenetthundratrettiosex på engelska. Se diff. (Men även om du hade skrivit 20.136, med engelskt decimaltecken alltså, hade det blivit fel eftersom arean enligt NVR är 201.351 hektar). --Larske (talk) 14:44, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

tack! Jo jag har haft lite problem med kommãn..Yger (talk) 14:46, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Ändring av rangEdit

Hej, jag såg att du gjorde den här ändringen och misstänker att det beror på att du endast såg Skåne län i infoboxen. Det finns dock stor risk att din ändring kommer att ogöras av någon bot eller kolbaserad användare som vill att, när det finns mer än ett värde located in the administrative territorial entity (P131), ska finnas ett värde som har föredragen rang. Detta för att man ska kunna fråga om "bästa uttalande" och då få Skåne län som resultat. Det är samma resonemang som befolkningsuppgifterna för tätorter som du kanske kommer ihåg. Det är inte alla "konsumenter" av data i Wikidata som orkar hålla på att titta på detaljer som start time (P580) och end time (P582) för att lista ut vilken som är det nuvarande länet.
Jag har nu lagt till rank=valid i WD-mallen, vilket gör att alla värden för län, förutom de som är "Orekommenderad rang", hämtas till kommuninfoboxarna i svwp. --Larske (talk) 14:02, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Tack man lär sig.. och tydligen har detta inte gjorts för Västar Götalands län.Yger (talk) 14:04, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Felklick?Edit

Var det verkligen meningen att ta bort den här bilden? I så fall, varför? Ainali (talk) 22:34, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Det är en bild av var museet låg tidigare, det har nu flyttat.Yger (talk) 04:10, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
Aha. Då vet jag! Ainali (talk) 22:34, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Translation requestEdit

Hello.

Can you create en:Azerbaijanfilm, en:National Library of Azerbaijan and en:Azerbaijan National Academy of Sciences in Swedish Wikipedia?

Yours sincerely, Artoxx (talk) 10:32, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

not interested.Yger (talk) 10:34, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Gräsmark (Q21704801) and located in the administrative territorial entity (P131)Edit

Hello! Why do you add two values to located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) if it is transitive property (Q18647515)? Moreover Värmland (Q211638) is not administrative territorial entity (Q56061) since 1634 so we should either add it as located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) with end time (P582) or add it as a part of (P361). Сидик из ПТУ (talk) 18:38, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

you are right, it is inconsistent, but that how it is done for all distrikt, as well as in all Socken. But for all kommun I have entered landskap in "part of". I am unsure what is best but it should be the same in all objects. @Larske:.Yger (talk) 18:45, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
You know in Russian Wikipedia we use this data from Wikidata for get full path from village to country (e.g. Kiruna (Q83232), Kiruna Municipality (Q499474), Norrbotten County (Q103686), Sweden (Q34) as birthplace in infoboxes) and such inconsistencies destroy the algorithm, so we are extremely interested in unification when at one time point for each element we can get exactly one located in the administrative territorial entity (P131). Another question is whether a distrikt and Socken can be considered a located in the administrative territorial entity (P131). Perhaps a more accurate property should be created for parishes, electoral and statistical regions? At the same time in different countries, all this can combine both the functions of a administrative territorial entity (Q56061) and the nominal. Сидик из ПТУ (talk) 19:13, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
I understand your thought, and perhaps all landskap should be shifted from "in adm area". And you are right: it is a mess in Sweden, a well as in WD, how to classify distrikt, socken and parishes (an also härad) and tingslag/domkrets which are judical areas.Yger (talk) 19:21, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
@Сидик из ПТУ: A large problem is that administrative units are not transitive in Sweden, and has never been transitive and probably never will be transitive. It is in practise never easy to determine if one unit is above or below any other. The County Administrative Board are responsible for many tasks, but not for everything in their county. And many times they are responsible for larger areas, all depending on what tasks they have been assigned. The same thing can be said about municipalities. Even if I work for one municipality, I sometimes have to go to the neighbour municipality for some tasks. IP 62.20.170.74 (Hej!) 09:19, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
I believe that for the purposes of Wikidata, we can use the formal hierarchy, and the confusion that you are talking about, all the same, cannot be fit into the database. In any case, if we know a municipality of Sweden (Q127448), then we definitely know which county of Sweden (Q200547) it belongs to. Therefore, the indication of county of Sweden (Q200547) with the specified municipality of Sweden (Q127448) is simply redundant, since this is obviously predetermined by the municipality of Sweden (Q127448). For which bureaucratic services is this or that level responsible, we still will not report in this property. Сидик из ПТУ (talk) 09:40, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
@Сидик из ПТУ We have many districts located in two or more municipality of Sweden (Q127448)! Districts are more or less based on Parishes in Sweden but often with some modifications so they often cross municipality borders. Wikidatas system with transitivity maybe work in todays US, Germany and Russia. But Sweden is not a federal state, with a simple hierarchy of administrative units. IP 62.20.170.74 (Hej!) 09:56, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
Yes, I agree that there is a problem with the districts, however, if we indicate both municipality of Sweden (Q127448), then county of Sweden (Q200547) will still be redundant. I’m sure that some services remain state-owned for residents of small villages, but this is not a reason to indicate Sweden as located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) for them too. So let's define the rules. Ok, we indicate all the municipality of Sweden (Q127448) as located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) for the registration district in Sweden (Q18333556) (one, two or more), but we do not indicate county of Sweden (Q200547) if municipality of Sweden (Q127448) is already filled here because we always can get it form municipality of Sweden (Q127448). Another question is which entities should be filled via part of (P361) or more specific properties like "electoral district", "judicial district", etc. Сидик из ПТУ (talk) 10:43, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
Yes. now existing kommun has and only has län in located in the administrative territorial entity (P131). And in "del av" for both existing and historical we find judical units and landskap. For districts we have (and will, only have) kommun i located in the administrative territorial entity (P131). and district will have landskap in "del av". Bur for socken (mostly an old division from middle age forward which in some aspect is still valid) we have kommun, härad an landskap in located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) In some object (older kommunes, some socken) which became obsolete before 1971 we use located in present-day administrative territorial entity (P3842). For judical untis (exsting and histrical) we have only län in located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) (and kommunes in has part (P527)).Yger (talk) 11:30, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

We are now planning to shift landskap away from located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) for districts. And for judical units (now existing and historial) we have län in located in the administrative territorial entity (P131)Yger (talk) 10:27, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

And transitivity works about OK from kommun. län land. But below the level of kommun there are problems. And not only of transitivity but how the low level units are defined and when.Yger (talk) 10:36, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
I wrote about the same thing at the same time). Сидик из ПТУ (talk) 10:43, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Strange qualifierEdit

Hi,

I'm not sure to understand this claim :

Would you explain what the self-referencing qualifier means here?

Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 07:25, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Nacka kapellförsamling was part of Brännkyrka församling withing the buondries of Brännkyrka församling, By the specified date it became all separated.(i have done like this for about 5000 objects)Yger (talk) 09:12, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
Yes, I saw a lot of these statements you added (I checking all self-references and usually remove them).
Thanks for the explanation but I'm still not sure to fully understand, isn't this implicit? Is there a discussion somewhere that I can read ?
Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 15:43, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
Yes you are right it is more or less implicit. But I need to fill in P518, in order to make it clear, it is a part, not all. Without P518 I interpret is that all has been replaced. Yger (talk) 16:10, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Susanna HelldénEdit

Hej, såg att du har skapat Susanna Helldén här på Wikidata, så jag hade tänkt lägga till en faktamall på svenska Wikipedia. Dock såg jag då att det stod att hon var född 1970 på Wikidata och 1979 i artikeln. Hittar inte källan med information om födelseår, så därför undrar jag om du har råkat skrivit fel när du la till henne här? Spisen (talk) 7 november 2019 kl. 16.13 (CEST)

tack! det var ett rent läs/skrivfel som jag nu korrigerat.Yger (talk) 16:18, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Svensk tätortskodEdit

Hej, för att hålla ihop våra svenska tätorter under en egenskap skulle jag vilja att du i framtiden ger dem https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P775 --So9q (talk) 10:56, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Det trodde jag också jag gjort, har du exempel där jag missat?Yger (talk) 11:02, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Å, jag har varit förvirrad och skrivit fel ovan. Jag menade inte P775 utan problemet är att du angett dem som instans av urban area (Q702492) när dem i själva verket bör vara en instans av urban area in Sweden (Q12813115) :) se denna sökning. Jag har ändrat vissa av dem för hand men det görs nog enklast via ett quickstatement.--So9q (talk) 11:53, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Ja där blev det fel ibland. Det var ofta jag fick korrigera mig själv.Yger (talk) 11:55, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Stort tack för listan, har korrigerat nu, de fall där du inte redan gjort det (samt ändrade en felaktig property på Hornstull)Yger (talk) 12:04, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Stort tack för samspelet. Tveka inte att höra av dig om jag kan göra nått bättre.--So9q (talk) 16:36, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Ta bort ett objektEdit

Hej Yger! Jag undrar om det finns något sätt att begära en borttagning av ett objekt eller försvinner de automatiskt när man tar bort allt innehåll? Jag märkte att Norrménska huset redan fanns som ett objekt och flyttade därför länken för artikeln på svenska Wikipedia till Q5489395. Måste jag göra något mer med det gamla objektet (Q78078265) eller räcker det med att tömma det? --Spisen (talk) 20:45, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Jag är själv inte säker men brukar göra en merge så den pekar rätt.Yger (talk) 20:46, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
Hade själv inte aktiverat merge-funktionen i inställningarna tidigare men nu vet jag i alla fall hur man omdirigerar på Wikidata, tack. /Spisen (talk) 21:02, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
@Spisen: Inte följt era förehavanden, men det är ofta rätt att merga istället för att radera. Om ändå radering skulle vara aktuell, se Wikidata:Requests for deletions. 62 etc (talk) 09:23, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

Utbytning av splitterskyddat trupptransportfordon till pansarbandvagn.Edit

Nyligen så bytte du ut splitterskyddat trupptransportfordon mot pansarbandvagn som svensk sida till armored personnel carrier utan anledning. Källan SoldF 2001 som finns i båda artiklarna beskriver på sidan 86 att splitterskyddat trupptransportfordon är den svenska benämningen för engelska APC och att benämningen pansarbandvagn används för både infantry fighting vehicle och armored personell carrier. Soldf är utgiven av försvarsmakten och har korrekt information.--Blockhaj (talk) 15:15, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Det är möjligt jag landade fel, återställ gärna. DU kanske också bör titta på hur pansarbandvagn borde länkas?Yger (talk) 16:12, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
Jag och Esquilo tittade lite på ärendet för ett tag sen och det verkar inte finnas någon bra länkning till pbv. Ryssland har ett liknande system men har ingen sida för sitt exempel för pansarbandvagn.--Blockhaj (talk) 18:40, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
Detta skede då jag jobbat med att se till att alla WPartiklar länkas mot ett WD objekt, och vid behov har jag skapat ny WD objekt. Så om ni kan skapa ett lämpligt WD objekt vore det förnämligt.Yger (talk) 18:43, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Unknown valueEdit

Can you explain what value is supposed to be here? For me it is shown as unknown value, which would indicate it is NULL (not set) and as such not a usable value at all. Many wikis use code from french wikipedia and that would not show NULL values at all, making it useless. Worse, it is harder to find places that need some value if there are nonsensical values set already. Ipr1 (talk) 20:59, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

@Ipr1: NULL and unknown value are fundamentally different. The first one means it is not set, whereas the other one, which is a special thing for Wikidata, means that we know there is a value for it but we don't know which one it is (for now). Read more here: Help:Statements#Unknown_or_no_values. Ainali (talk) 23:37, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
Hmm.. I can see the difference now, though I would argue that marking it unknown (as opposed to removing the statement completely) has dubious value but I'll let it slide. If it is a common practice then so be it. I wonder what people used to database normalization would say about it (I guess most would insist on removing it). Ipr1 (talk) 23:48, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
It's established practice here on Wikidata and is used for cases when it is known that the value is unknown. That is important to capture compared to leaving it blank which only means that no user have gotten around to edit it yet. Hence it enables all sorts of interesting queries for future research. Ainali (talk) 09:53, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
I sometimes add "unknown value" and source that claim, for example what is an asteroid named after. (Sometimes only the person who named it knows, and he is dead since long.) It's better than leaving it blank. If somebody find a another value, they are free to add that claim or replace it, if that is seen as a better option.
In some cases "unknown value" can be interpreted differently. A municipality have a coat of arm. We know what it should looks like, but we have no free file to add to that claim here on Wikidata. Should "unknown value" then be used or is there a better solution? I do not know. 62 etc (talk) 16:35, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks!Edit

Thank you for correcting my poor knowledge of Swedish geography in birth and death locations. I also just introduced Wikidata:Property proposal/Adelsvapen ID for Swedish noble families. --RAN (talk) 18:34, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

You are welcome. And you are not alone in finding this to be a mess.Yger (talk) 18:38, 6 February 2020 (UTC)