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Bottedits without Botflag

Bot edits have been flooding the recent edits for a long time. the bot edits come from a few users and they don't have a bot flag and make up to 4 edits a second, so we don't have an overview of the recent edits anymore and there are often error messages from Mediawiki. i suspect this is due to the simultaneous edits. The edits are made by running several jobs simultaneously with the QuickStatements tool. I think we should stop this.Editing in this rhythm has too many negative effects on other users. The mass of simultaneous contributions must definitely be reduced --WikiBayer (talk) 14:57, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Users, including those with a bot flag, are ratelimited to 90 edits per minute, and it is widely accepted to run at that pace without a bot flag when using batch editing tools such as QuickStatements. The exception are admins who are not ratelimited, and who should be more careful with these tools (e.g. use the admin account for small batches only, and use a non-admin flooder account otherwise). Apart from that, this is a wiki with largely automated editing in large numbers, clearly beyond what is possible to monitor with the classical recent changes tracking tools. —MisterSynergy (talk) 15:47, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

@MisterSynergyYes wikidata is automated a lot. The problem is that there are hundreds of thousands of edits from 2 users and they are made for more than 24 hours. But it makes a difference whether you make 1000 or 500000 contributions. yesterday I had several times the message timeout in the last changes. There is also the possibility to request the pseudobot flag. WikiBayer (talk) 16:16, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

@WikiBayer which two users are we talking about? Estopedist1 (talk) 06:20, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@Estopedist1

https://wikidata.wikiscan.org/?menu=userstats&user=Prefuture (April 24: 672.827 Edits)

https://wikidata.wikiscan.org/?menu=userstats&user=AdrianoRutz (April 24: 1.250.182 Edits)

Here we can definitely no longer speak of users - this are BOTs. WikiBayer (talk) 11:01, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

You can just filter out edits from Quickstatements by excluding edits with the tag quickstatements[2.0] from recent changes. --Ameisenigel (talk) 11:14, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

And if we talk about users we should also inform them that we are talking about them, hence ping @Prefuture, AdrianoRutz: --Ameisenigel (talk) 11:16, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I am very happy to discuss how to best proceed to update content in an efficient and respectful manner.

I believe I did so and absolutely do not want to cause issues for any users. I know there a millions of edits to make to fill missing information/update incorrect one. I thought QS was anyway rate-limited in a way that did not impact other users. Anyway, thank you for pinging me AdrianoRutz (talk) 11:56, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

By the way, as much of this is made related to Wikidata:WikiProject Chemistry Natural products, we requested a bot for other edits and I know using bots for different kind of edits has been discussed without real consensus on the subject, and I do not think requesting n bots for n types of edits that eventually then are not used anymore makes sense? I might have missed something but people heavily contributing to constant curation of incorrect values/IDs or else might better know? AdrianoRutz (talk) 12:01, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Well you did nothing wrong here; you just happened to be active when User:WikiBayer was overwhelmed by the amount of edits in the recent changes stream. Lots of editors use batch editing tools such as QuickStatements for large batches, and you are correct to assume that it is properly ratelimited (actually not the tool, but your account is ratelimited just as every other account).

However, you can ask the bureaucrats for the "flooder" flag if you temporarily make a lot of edits. This would help patrollers to hide your edits more easily. Many users do not use this flag, however, and the entire process with user rights is a bit inefficient. ---MisterSynergy (talk) 13:29, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

One thing I do if I patrol Recent Changes is play around with the filters; you can set "Review status" to see only unpatrolled edits, or "User registration and experience" to see edits from IPs and newly registered users. –FlyingAce^✈hello 15:41, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Of course I am not against automated contributions, but they should be executed accordingly. I know from my own experience that the bureaucrats are inefficient. But with 500,000+ you can definitely go through the inefficient process for the "pseudobot" flag (in english interface "flooder").When you were both active was Filtering also not possible, or only with manual link input, as Mediawiki did not load the recend changes page and displayed "Timeout". WikiBayer (talk) 17:19, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Good person or maybe not so much?

I'm involved so I'm not supposed to take any action. But I increasingly wonder if this person is here to help build a database, or if they are here to create drama. I leave this to your infinite wisdom: User:PotsdamLamb Infrastruktur (talk) 09:40, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I am not here to cause drama. I came onboard to help out. After the comment made to my by one of your admins, where they talked down to me, I have decided I do not want to help with vandalism or patrolling. Just be a standard editor. I connect a lot of our articles from SEWP to wikidata. I will continue to do so if they pass our criteria. I asked to have my rights removed before you commented on my talk page and then I stated the same thing to you on my talk page to you. I’m really surprised that you would even bring me here. I stated I am done participating in the programs to help you guys out and I am going back to where I am wanted and more useful as obviously I’m not useful here, especially after reading your comments. Sorry if you think I caused drama by pointing out an item that was created for promotional use by someone who just created their account 2-3 days ago and they have placed the article on different Wikipedias and has been deleted from ours as non-notable and will probably be removed from ENWP as well when it gets assessed by their team. Thanks - Da Lamb^{Talk to me!}_{Please don't eat da 🐑!} 09:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

That rude admin was me. PotsdamLamb, as I said, by that comment I did not want to use a sort of didactic manner of talking. If it looked like that, I feel sorry. You may continue to pay attention to every awkward phrase by a random person on your way but I hope you will change your decision about leaving the project. --Wolverène (talk) 09:59, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

By an admin bringing me here to get me blocked has made the decision for me. While I would hope not to get blocked so I can continue linking items, will not negate the fact I will not participate in any other work here. Thanks - Da Lamb^{Talk to me!}_{Please don't eat da 🐑!} 10:21, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@PotsdamLamb: I consider that you are trying to collaborate in good faith, and would like to encourage you to keep helping out where you can. Please consider that this is a multilingual project, and thus not all of us are natively fluent in English; when in doubt, assume good faith :) One thing I would like to point out regarding your deletion requests – I understand that you may consider some of these items to be spam, but per WD:N #1, if they have a valid link to another project, then we are unable to delete them. The best course of action is to follow the deletion processes for the other projects first; once the articles have been deleted, then you can request deletion here and we will be happy to take care of it. Kind regards, –FlyingAce^✈hello 15:38, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

I didn't ask for you to be blocked, please refrain from making statements you know to be untrue. Thank you. Infrastruktur (talk) 23:29, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@Infrastruktur Based on what this page is about (reporting users to be blocked and protection requests). I am obviously not a page, so that only leaves one other option on the table. Not to mention the title of this section, which is pretty degrading and inflammatory. Basically coming down to casting aspirations. As I stated, please remove my rollback on this site as I will not remain active here. Thanks - Da Lamb^{Talk to me!}_{Please don't eat da 🐑!} 23:33, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Block request

en:WP:ILLEGIT, en:WP:SCRUTINY, zh.wiki LTA, confirmed in zh.wiki, please see [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15].--MCC214 (talk) 16:19, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Um... Please don't beat the dead horse. They won't be used anymore. How about suggest a global ban in metawiki? 阿南之人 (talk) 16:53, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

 Comment Only 1 of the accounts (空手而回) has edited in the last month, and they are not blocked on zhwiki where the LTA is from, nor do their recent edits appear disruptive. --DannyS712 (talk) 05:18, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

This LTA split their editing history means that other editors may not be able to detect patterns in their contributions, and switching accounts or concealing a clean start in a way that avoids scrutiny (this LTA don't used after zh.wiki blocked, and create new account to split their editing history and switching accounts or concealing in a way that avoids scrutiny) eight years ago, also, zh.wiki will blocked 空手而回 after, more importantly, this list all is same user.--MCC214 (talk) 07:49, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Maybe meta:SRG will be good place for this LTA case?--S8321414 (talk) 05:04, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

41.250.114.135

User: 41.250.114.135 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • SUL (for IP: GUC))
Reason for reporting: Vandalism, please restore the original interwiki links in both Q189046 and Q3179385, as they have been mixed up with articles by this IP. -- Riad Salih (talk) 00:01, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Moved from Commons (c:Special:Diff/869844774/869852856) —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 00:13, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

@Mdaniels5757: what is the situation here? Estopedist1 (talk) 11:01, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

@Estopedist1 I don't really know. User:Riad Salih posted this on Commons' AN/V (I presume by accident), and I moved it over. On the two pages Riad mentioned, the IP apparently attempted to swap the two items' sitelinks with each other (so I reverted); Riad appears to believe that this is vandalism (I know nothing about the topics, so don't know if it's vandalism). Riad and the IP also seem to be edit warring on Q112119030 and Q12191312, although it might be permissible if the edits really are vandalism. —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 15:31, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

@Mdaniels5757 @Estopedist1 I wasn't on an edit warning, but the IP was attempting to change the interlinks of certain articles, merge Wikidata items and articles, all without anyone noticing. It was pure vandalism as they were altering everything to Morocco. I wanted to prevent their vandalism before they caused any significant damage while active editors were sleeping. If you observe closely, you'll notice they were making quick edits, and I was restoring them because they were rushing to merge multiple items.

For example, take Q3514113, which represents Tunisian Tajin. They added the country of origin as Morocco, even though it should be Tunisia.

Regards Riad Salih (talk) 16:02, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Error not linking to subpages

Hi, In one case, I wanted to link to /styles.css in templates, which warned: Template subpages should not link to each other. /styles.css are very important for updating and improving the templates. Is it technically possible to link the subpages of the templates with the title "/styles.css"? Pereoptic (talk) 08:17, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Please see WD:N: "To be valid, a link must not be [...] any page that is intended for TemplateStyles (i.e. page names that end with ".css")." --Ameisenigel (talk) 14:57, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Report concerning User:83.59.174.127

83.59.174.127 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • SUL (for IP: GUC)) — Reasons: LTA XReport ―--Wüstenspringmaus _talk 09:15, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done: Blocked for 1 month.--S8321414 (talk) 09:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

I think that this discussion is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, don't hesitate to replace this template with your comment. Estopedist1 (talk) 09:29, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Logged-out edit

Can an admin hide the IP visible at [16]? I accidentally made a logged-out edit. There is not a huge risk for me (thus publicly requesting here), but I prefer to have it hidden. whym (talk) 12:01, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done--S8321414 (talk) 12:42, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

I think that this discussion is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, don't hesitate to replace this template with your comment. Estopedist1 (talk) 15:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Request for semi-protection for Q111306238

Please semi-protect Q111306238 due to persistent vandalism by cross-wiki long-term abuse Sidowpknbkhihj (w:ja:LTA:HEATHROW). Many socks appeared in this query has been blocked this month. This LTA tries to change image which this LTA uploaded on commons. --郊外生活Kogaiseikatsu (talk,contribs) 13:27, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

 Protected for six months Estopedist1 (talk) 15:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

I think that this discussion is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, don't hesitate to replace this template with your comment. S8321414 (talk) 23:19, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Request for semi-protection for Lisa Sotilis (Q17101800)

The page Lisa Sotilis (Q17101800) has suffered repeated vandalism recently with three users adding ‘scam professional' to the record. The users are Vérite24, Verityy2425 and FauxFaut. Diffs are 12 April 2024: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 22 April 2024: 6 7.

Would an admin please semi-protect the page or take whatever action they think appropriate. -- Malcolmxl5 (talk) 18:43, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

 Protected for one month. –FlyingAce^✈hello 19:13, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

I think that this discussion is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, don't hesitate to replace this template with your comment. S8321414 (talk) 23:19, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protection for Q108704579

Please semi-protect Yahoo! Inc. (Q108704579) - current target of LTA vandal. Jklamo (talk) 22:14, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done: Protected for 3 months.--S8321414 (talk) 23:18, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

I think that this discussion is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, don't hesitate to replace this template with your comment. Wolverène (talk) 04:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Report concerning User:89.244.118.138

89.244.118.138 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • SUL (for IP: GUC)) — Reasons: Vandalism XReport ―TenWhile6 (talk | SWMT) 09:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

 Blocked for three months Estopedist1 (talk) 10:48, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Report concerning User:194.25.204.171

194.25.204.171 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log • SUL (for IP: GUC)) — Reasons: LTA XReport ―--Wüstenspringmaus _talk 10:10, 24 April 2024 (UTC)