Wikidata:Edit groups/QSv2/26009
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Edit group QSv2/26009
| Summary | {{{summary}}} | Author | BrokenSegue |
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| Number of edits | 2,869 (more statistics) | Example edit | {{{example_page}}} |
Discussion edit
@BrokenSegue: Hello, I have undone 2 edits from your batch because they are not the (official) accounts of the persons in question but fan accounts that actually state in their bio that they are not the person in question. This leads me to believe that there might be many more mistakes within this batch and makes me question the validity of the other additions. I don't think the source you used to import can be considered fully reliable and should not be used for this kind of imports. I suggest undoing the whole batch or checking every edit. --Redalert2fan (talk) 14:24, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Redalert2fan: hmmm, that's unfortunate. Thanks for double checking. I did pre-screen the data by hand to remove obvious errors but clearly some slipped through. I'd rather not undo the whole batch. I'll manually audit them all if it comes to that. Do we have a policy on the required "accuracy" of a source to import it? No source is 100% for this kind of information. BrokenSegue (talk) 22:49, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
- @BrokenSegue: I don't know if there is a required accuracy level, however I do think that using IMDB as an import source is a bad idea since it can be edited by anyone as well, so its a a free for all quality or accuracy wise and cannot be taken for verified accurate information. Someone could just add a random account, a fan account or someone with the same name but not the same person on purpose or by accident. I wouldn't use IMDB for biographies on en wiki either when it comes to personal or career information. I might be over reacting a bit, most of the additions are probably fine but I think its possible that more bad additions have been made. You don't need to revert the batch if you did pre-screening, that's probably good then but the 2 that slipped trough were quite obvious to someone familiar with the persons in question - I knew they didn't have a personal twitter account nor did the follower numbers match up to what I would expect if they did - apart from the fact that both of them even had a variation of "not an official account" in their bio. I also reverted one more edit because the account didn't actually exist. Now you would be depended on your own judgement to verify if the twitter account is actually the correct one or an official one for every person, but that would be better than how it is at the moment. It's your call on what you want to do of course, but for the future I think its a bad way to import social media accounts like this. --Redalert2fan (talk) 23:52, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Redalert2fan: I mean hasn't lots of data been auto imported from Wikpedia itself which is also freely editable? Also, I'm not sure if this particular data from imdb is freely editable. I'm unsure what next action I'll take. BrokenSegue (talk) 00:35, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
- @BrokenSegue: the idea is that the data imported from Wikipedia is already sourced there, so that's why you can see "imported from x Wikipedia" sometimes for dob, pob, occupations etc. however it's preferred if the actual reference is also added here on wikidaya, but most of the time that is not actually done. Ofcourse that is not applicable to social media accounts, they are either the correct one or not. No need for a news article about a person having a Instagram account right? You would only add "imported from x" as a reference for automated jobs, if I manually add a social media account I don't need to provide a source. I know for sure that it's a real account then otherwise I would not add it to wikidaya. The IMDb database can be edited by anyone if you have an account, your edits will be "verified" before inclusion, but that clearly isn't waterproof. I just submitted the request to remove the bad Twitter accounts on IMDb of the edits I undid here, but that may take up to 5 days. There is no problem with adding social media accounts in this way I think, but incorrect additions like this are Inherretly more possible with regards to social media accounts compared to date of births or occupations etc. My point is using IMDb specific might not be the best of ideas in general but certainly not for social media accounts. It will be quite some work to check all edits yes, more reasons to be sure of future usage of IMDb. --Redalert2fan (talk) 01:10, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Redalert2fan: I mean hasn't lots of data been auto imported from Wikpedia itself which is also freely editable? Also, I'm not sure if this particular data from imdb is freely editable. I'm unsure what next action I'll take. BrokenSegue (talk) 00:35, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
- @BrokenSegue: I don't know if there is a required accuracy level, however I do think that using IMDB as an import source is a bad idea since it can be edited by anyone as well, so its a a free for all quality or accuracy wise and cannot be taken for verified accurate information. Someone could just add a random account, a fan account or someone with the same name but not the same person on purpose or by accident. I wouldn't use IMDB for biographies on en wiki either when it comes to personal or career information. I might be over reacting a bit, most of the additions are probably fine but I think its possible that more bad additions have been made. You don't need to revert the batch if you did pre-screening, that's probably good then but the 2 that slipped trough were quite obvious to someone familiar with the persons in question - I knew they didn't have a personal twitter account nor did the follower numbers match up to what I would expect if they did - apart from the fact that both of them even had a variation of "not an official account" in their bio. I also reverted one more edit because the account didn't actually exist. Now you would be depended on your own judgement to verify if the twitter account is actually the correct one or an official one for every person, but that would be better than how it is at the moment. It's your call on what you want to do of course, but for the future I think its a bad way to import social media accounts like this. --Redalert2fan (talk) 23:52, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
Apart from that I also noticed that quite a high percentage of edits from this job failed which is quite unusual, are you also sure you did them in the right way? --Redalert2fan (talk) 01:09, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Redalert2fan: Yeah, i have no idea why that happened. Only the "citation" edits failed. My past jobs didn't have this problem. I chalked it up to a bug in quickstatements or load on wikidata but maybe it's something particular in how I generated the file. Can't imagine what I did wrong though. I do not intend to continue using data from IMDB. BrokenSegue (talk) 01:17, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
- You could use the try to reset errors button on the specific job, but that will also possibly re add undone edits. It's probably quick statements that pushed the edits too quickly to wikidata in this case. Before the property twitter username was saved it tried to add a citation, but couldn't find the property to add the citation too because it wasn't "present" yet. Another tip for if you add twitter usernames, they require the mandatory qualifier constraint "Twitter user numeric ID (P6552)" as a qualifier which all of your edits are missing in this case, throwing up "this statement has some issues" flags. (at least that's what the little error flag says on all additions).
- People will probably fix bad additions sooner or later, and its not any critical content so checking all 1600+ changed pages to find another possible 10-20 mistakes probably isn't worth it in the end. Thanks for considering not using IMDb though, it prevents further mistakes in my opinion. Redalert2fan (talk) 01:32, 27 February 2020 (UTC)